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PSA: Firefox Nightly now with experimental Wayland support

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Re: PSA: Firefox Nightly now with experimental Wayland support

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post #89

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They will never migrate to Servo. Servo is a full web browser used as a platform for testing components of a web browser that have been written in Rust like WebRender. GP's comment answers your question about the status of WebRender.

Obviously, I meant the parts of Servo like Stylo for example.

Stylo has been shipping as part of desktop Firefox since the launch of version 57 last year. And with Firefox for Android since version 60.

Re: PSA: Firefox Nightly now with experimental Wayland support

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post #89

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously, I meant the parts of Servo like Stylo for example.

Stylo has been shipping as part of desktop Firefox since the launch of version 57 last year. And with Firefox for Android since version 60.

I know about Stylo. But like WebRender it is only a small part of browser engine. I am asking about the rest. No information whatsoever.

Re: PSA: Firefox Nightly now with experimental Wayland support

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Isn't that laptop from like 6 years ago? I'd imagine your GPU is very much considered legacy.

This isn't 2002 where single core performance had increased by 4x and average ram has quadrupled. Computers can now easily have a 10 year usable lifespan. Heck Nvidia provides drivers for your modern kernel for devices all the way back to 2007.

My home laptop is almost 10 years old now. With more RAM and replacing the HDD with an SSD, I keep trying and failing to justify replacing it.

Re: PSA: Firefox Nightly now with experimental Wayland support

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I am running webrender under xwayland, and it is super smooth. This system is damn near the best laptop I have ever had. I have replaced the bios with core boot and have a fully encrypted luks disk. I get near 15 hours battery life. All that for the price of $150 + plus a few premium upgrades (ssd, and ips panel). My T450s cost me ~$2700 new, and it is faster in some cases, but the cost/performance ratio just does no…

Do you not feel limited by the CPU? I had a Macbook Air with a 4th gen Core i5 and at times it was really slow just for day to day browsing. Maybe that was just thermal throttling though. Now I've switched to a T470s which seems a good trade off between size, connectivity and performance. It's roughly the same size as my Macbook Air (13", 2014) but a little lighter, and has ports for HDMI, Ethernet, USB 3.0 x3, audio…

No not at all. I do everything on this system -- except gaming, which is a waste of time mostly -- I already clocked in what 3 or 4 years of real time on WoW? The needle is out, and I am going to stay clean this time :p But DK solo tanking was amazing while it lasted. World PvP prot pally was also fun.

The S series starting in the T460 I think is crap. Having the big honking external battery is a must. The non S series are as big as the T450s were and you get all your ports too. My T450s gets over 20hours battery life with the extended battery.

That being said I wonder if you could get more life out of your T460s. Check with powertop how many watts you use in idle. You should be able to get it to 3w (I can get mine t450s to 2.5w) idle. Use the turntables in powertop -- set them to "GOOD", you can write a systems service to enable them on boot.

For me the key to saving battery life is to optimize how much you use when you are not using your laptop.

Re: PSA: Firefox Nightly now with experimental Wayland support

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Wayland is a different display API and protocol altogether. It is an alternative to X, designed with modern graphics hardware in mind. https://wayland.freedesktop.org

And explicitly designed against remote desktop and remote windowing with an actively antagonistic view toward the concept.

That also means screen recording is going to be just as or even more painful than it is on X11. Not really an encouraging thing for gaming, streaming and video-making on Linux and that's a huge pity.

Re: PSA: Firefox Nightly now with experimental Wayland support

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wayland is a different display API and protocol altogether. It is an alternative to X, designed with modern graphics hardware in mind. https://wayland.freedesktop.org

And explicitly designed against remote desktop and remote windowing with an actively antagonistic view toward the concept.

Given that things seem to be moving back more towards client-server, this seems silly

Re: PSA: Firefox Nightly now with experimental Wayland support

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Anyone knows, what is the progress of migrating to Servo/WebRender? What parts are still in C++, what parts are being rewritten, and what are not?

This page may also answer some of your questions: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Oxidation#Rust_Components
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