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The US Is Preparing to Prosecute Julian Assange

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Re: The US Is Preparing to Prosecute Julian Assange

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'Believed' is a loose term, you'd have to be deluded to believe something like that.

Would you though? The State Dept under Clinton played fast and loose with it's own procedures and regulations and I have a friend who died in the Benghazi attack if you want to fight with me on this point. More than 5% of the Section 702 wiretaps conducted under the last President's administration were performed illegally by their own admission. False flag operations are part of our history and three-letter agencies…

> Would you though?

Well, yes. The ever-increasing, horrible drone campaigns conducted from the Obama years onward as a tool of destabilization are one thing, but that doesn't make it reasonable to expect that they'd use them to assassinate high profile political agitators in first world countries or that they actually have the ability to do such a thing. The contexts are totally different, however the narrative IS in keeping with the typical far right behavior of cultivating the image of a victim terrorized by an all-powerful shadow cabal

Re: The US Is Preparing to Prosecute Julian Assange

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I don't think Freedom of the Press is dead. WikiLeaks isn't a news organization, especially when they released campaign emails during the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election. They have been to be a known tool for the Russian government, even going as far as creating a show for Julian Assange on the state-backed RT TV Network.

>They have been to be a known tool for the Russian government Known by whom? Its been over 2 years and there has still been absolutely no evidence released at all proving this. Claims made by the CIA, the US government or anyone else are proof of nothing, despite what you may think. >even going as far as creating a show for Julian Assange on the state-backed RT TV Network. Larry King has a show on RT too, is he an ag…

sigh ... The current Secretary of State (and former CIA Director) has directly called out and said that WikiLeaks has done work for the GRU or the Russian Intelligence. https://www.cia.gov/news-information/speeches-testimony/2017...

This shit is easy to lookup ... and the fact of the matter is, trying to claim that "we" are as bad as the Russians is the same shit Putin does to dispel any criticism against his fucked up regime's actions. No matter how bad the US has been in Wars and sticking their fingers in democratic elections, the Russians are 10 times as worse and they know it.

Re: The US Is Preparing to Prosecute Julian Assange

#93
post #32

So much for WikiLeaks thinking there was a lesser evil back in 2016

Wikileaks believed at the time that Clinton was ready to send a drone to get rid of Assange. Between due process and a drone attack, I take due process any day.

She was very clearly joking.

I personally thought it was hilarious.

Re: The US Is Preparing to Prosecute Julian Assange

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Even if that’s true — it’s not, no emails have been shown to be fake — it’s not illegal to publish false information.

I didn't say the emails were fake. I said they were altered. The metadata, specifically. According to the NY Times they were alter to make it look like they were downloaded directly from a computer in the U.S. and to change the date the documents were obtained. And publishing false information is not illegal. Knowingly aiding a foreign government in their efforts to undermine an election is treason.

No metadata had been altered for any WikiLeaks releases.

Re: The US Is Preparing to Prosecute Julian Assange

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Julian Assange was a key figure in the early days of PostgreSQL and he contributed to NetBSD http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/sys/netinet/tcp_subr... https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/CALtFtELs3mMM2g__fZFyF...

"key figure" as in: A few small changes. https://git.postgresql.org/gitweb/?p=postgresql.git&a=search... https://git.postgresql.org/gitweb/?p=postgresql.git;a=commit... Edit: Added the one contribution he didn't commit himself.

What? I would be proud to have got this into postgres core, but perhaps you operate on a different plane of excellence. https://git.postgresql.org/gitweb/?p=postgresql.git;a=blobdi...

Re: The US Is Preparing to Prosecute Julian Assange

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What was illegal about releasing campaign emails that were given to them?

When it was done with the intent of influencing the 2016 election, that tends to fall under conspiracy and espionage ... especially when it comes from a former adversarial government.

> When it was done with the intent of influencing the 2016 election

Reality check - partisan newspapers, news channels, and news organizations publish partisan nonsense with the intent of influencing elections. All the time.

Unfortunately, or fortunately, freedom of speech does not mean 'Freedom of unbiased speech.' If it did, then you could shut down the entire media establishment tomorrow.

Re: The US Is Preparing to Prosecute Julian Assange

#98
post #91

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Would you though? The State Dept under Clinton played fast and loose with it's own procedures and regulations and I have a friend who died in the Benghazi attack if you want to fight with me on this point. More than 5% of the Section 702 wiretaps conducted under the last President's administration were performed illegally by their own admission. False flag operations are part of our history and three-letter agencies…

> Would you though? Well, yes. The ever-increasing, horrible drone campaigns conducted from the Obama years onward as a tool of destabilization are one thing, but that doesn't make it reasonable to expect that they'd use them to assassinate high profile political agitators in first world countries or that they actually have the ability to do such a thing. The contexts are totally different, however the narrative IS i…

> doesn't make it reasonable to expect that they'd assassinate high profile political agitators in first world countries

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assassinations_in_Euro...

Re: The US Is Preparing to Prosecute Julian Assange

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Julian Assange was a key figure in the early days of PostgreSQL and he contributed to NetBSD http://cvsweb.netbsd.org/bsdweb.cgi/src/sys/netinet/tcp_subr... https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/CALtFtELs3mMM2g__fZFyF...

Hans Reiser contributed to open source software as well. Maybe you could spell your point out a little more clearly?

I found it very interesting that Assange had made real contributions to postgres. I had thought he was a "hacker" in the sense of popular journalism (i.e. fuck knows that they mean but not a serious open source contributor). I don't know why you're criticizing the person who posted that interesting link.

Re: The US Is Preparing to Prosecute Julian Assange

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If they are a news organization, they do a terrible job of reporting the news. They are a black box repository for leaked data. They were once a great resource for info hackers and leakers to push their data, like back in 2008/2009. But that was before news organizations started using their own secure drop servers for sources. Once WikiLeaks sources started to not go to them, they started to look for other benefactor…

Again, nothing suggesting they are knowingly working with the Russians. Wikileaks quality has surely dropped. They are still the press, and any prosecution by the US will be over things like the Manning links, a direct attack on the freedom of the press.

>Again, nothing suggesting they are knowingly working with the Russians.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tomorrow

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