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MemSQL is now free to use for databases with up to 128GB of RAM usage

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Re: MemSQL is now free to use for databases with up to 128GB of RAM usage

#91

Post by loopp »

furicane wrote: post #84

I tried to come up with a smart and polite comment but I can't. The target audience for memsql aren't developers or engineers. It's the management that has no idea about IT. I don't like closed-source solutions. I don't want to book a demo. I want to be able to read the source. I want to install it, use it, benchmark it, be sure that the results are 100% accurate. Sadly, I see this post as marketing ploy and I can't…

Disclaimer: I am a product manager at MemSQL, so I may be biased :)

There are a variety of ways to try out MemSQL yourself such as installing on Linux, Windows, Mac, AWS, etc, and maybe I am biased since I was an engineer before I became a PM, but we optimize our product currently exactly for technical people such as IT, devops, and of course, engineers. For a list of installation guides, check this link out: https://docs.memsql.com/guides/latest/install-memsql/

Take a look at our docs (docs.memsql.com) and you will see that we all actually are just a bunch of engineers and people with a technical background. Are there certain technical topics you feel are unclear here? I'm also happy to chat privately.

If you still feel this product isn't right for you, that is fine -- MemSQL's focus on query speed may not be for everyone. However, with this release of having a free product for people to try out, we definitely optimized exactly for people that want to try the product out :). I'm actually surprised you mention our product isn't for engineers/technicalPeople, because from our field of view, we actually sometimes see MemSQL as too technical, hence why we focused on usability in this release, ha!

Hope that answers some doubts you may have -- thanks for the comment.

Re: MemSQL is now free to use for databases with up to 128GB of RAM usage

#92

Post by dman »

loopp wrote: post #91
furicane wrote: post #84

I tried to come up with a smart and polite comment but I can't. The target audience for memsql aren't developers or engineers. It's the management that has no idea about IT. I don't like closed-source solutions. I don't want to book a demo. I want to be able to read the source. I want to install it, use it, benchmark it, be sure that the results are 100% accurate. Sadly, I see this post as marketing ploy and I can't…

Disclaimer: I am a product manager at MemSQL, so I may be biased :) There are a variety of ways to try out MemSQL yourself such as installing on Linux, Windows, Mac, AWS, etc, and maybe I am biased since I was an engineer before I became a PM, but we optimize our product currently exactly for technical people such as IT, devops, and of course, engineers. For a list of installation guides, check this link out: https:/…

Some feedback - I cant appear to find any way to install on Windows on the following part of your website - https://docs.memsql.com/guides/latest/install-memsql/

Re: MemSQL is now free to use for databases with up to 128GB of RAM usage

#93

Post by furicane »

loopp wrote: post #91
furicane wrote: post #84

I tried to come up with a smart and polite comment but I can't. The target audience for memsql aren't developers or engineers. It's the management that has no idea about IT. I don't like closed-source solutions. I don't want to book a demo. I want to be able to read the source. I want to install it, use it, benchmark it, be sure that the results are 100% accurate. Sadly, I see this post as marketing ploy and I can't…

Disclaimer: I am a product manager at MemSQL, so I may be biased :) There are a variety of ways to try out MemSQL yourself such as installing on Linux, Windows, Mac, AWS, etc, and maybe I am biased since I was an engineer before I became a PM, but we optimize our product currently exactly for technical people such as IT, devops, and of course, engineers. For a list of installation guides, check this link out: https:/…

Guys, I believe you are engineers that are doing an amazing job. But the whole "free up to 128GB" promotion is just.. wtf. And the website revolves around attracting IT managers, not engineers that make educated decisions related to project(s). I make decisions based on calculations, not based on shiny websites. I'm not undermining your product. It appears to be amazing. I'd love if it were free and open source. Heck, we'd probably spend a ton of money on it for paid support, scaling planning, consulting, deployment and what not. I just hate your business model, that's all. Let me have your program running without constraints! And because of it, I can't see a reason to use it. I choose to explore other venues that went down the open source route. I'm quite okay with not running the fastest option. No hard feelings, I sincerely wish you make a huge dent in this area and make a ton of money!

Re: MemSQL is now free to use for databases with up to 128GB of RAM usage

#94

Post by Aeolun »

furicane wrote: post #93
loopp wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disclaimer: I am a product manager at MemSQL, so I may be biased :) There are a variety of ways to try out MemSQL yourself such as installing on Linux, Windows, Mac, AWS, etc, and maybe I am biased since I was an engineer before I became a PM, but we optimize our product currently exactly for technical people such as IT, devops, and of course, engineers. For a list of installation guides, check this link out: https:/…

Guys, I believe you are engineers that are doing an amazing job. But the whole "free up to 128GB" promotion is just.. wtf. And the website revolves around attracting IT managers, not engineers that make educated decisions related to project(s). I make decisions based on calculations, not based on shiny websites. I'm not undermining your product. It appears to be amazing. I'd love if it were free and open source. Heck…

Free up to 128GB is practically free for up to 95% of applications. In both dev and prod.

I really don’t see how you could have a problem with that.

Re: MemSQL is now free to use for databases with up to 128GB of RAM usage

#95

Post by CuriouslyC »

nikita wrote: post #90
nikita wrote: post #80

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Here, or https://www.memsql.com/forum/ , or memsql-public.slack.com.

To close the loop on this one. We looked at the query and strictly speaking we should be rejecting it b/c HAVING clause is referencing a column that's NOT in group by and NOT an aggregate expression. The query shape is: select count(*), a from T group by a having b > 0 In this case b is not allowed to be part of having by ANSI standard. We let it run b/c some customers migrate from MySQL and MySQL allows this query.…

Thanks for taking a look at it. Your position is perfectly reasonable, but given the fact that (at least in my case) the results I got back were subtly wrong, and there's a good chance someone wouldn't notice, it might be a good idea to default this off if it isn't already, with a really stern warning in the config.

Re: MemSQL is now free to use for databases with up to 128GB of RAM usage

#96

Post by moocowtruck »

manigandham wrote: post #86
furicane wrote: post #84

I tried to come up with a smart and polite comment but I can't. The target audience for memsql aren't developers or engineers. It's the management that has no idea about IT. I don't like closed-source solutions. I don't want to book a demo. I want to be able to read the source. I want to install it, use it, benchmark it, be sure that the results are 100% accurate. Sadly, I see this post as marketing ploy and I can't…

You can install it, use it, benchmark it, and check everything yourself. It's not open-source, but there is plenty of closed-source proprietary software, and plenty of buyers who care about solving their problems and paying money to get that done (and ensure the vendor stays alive). If you don't want to use a closed-source product then that's your prerogative, but I don't see how you're making a dev/engineering decis…

because the source is important, it tells the buyer they have a future if they no longer like your services; closed source means they are locked into whatever fresh hell might come upon your company which in turn unleashes fresh hell upon their decision to buy in.. in 2018+ it's just a smart decision to make

Re: MemSQL is now free to use for databases with up to 128GB of RAM usage

#97

Post by moocowtruck »

dman wrote: post #92
loopp wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disclaimer: I am a product manager at MemSQL, so I may be biased :) There are a variety of ways to try out MemSQL yourself such as installing on Linux, Windows, Mac, AWS, etc, and maybe I am biased since I was an engineer before I became a PM, but we optimize our product currently exactly for technical people such as IT, devops, and of course, engineers. For a list of installation guides, check this link out: https:/…

Some feedback - I cant appear to find any way to install on Windows on the following part of your website - https://docs.memsql.com/guides/latest/install-memsql/

good catch i dont see it either..weird

Re: MemSQL is now free to use for databases with up to 128GB of RAM usage

#98

Post by shin_lao »

moocowtruck wrote: post #96
manigandham wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can install it, use it, benchmark it, and check everything yourself. It's not open-source, but there is plenty of closed-source proprietary software, and plenty of buyers who care about solving their problems and paying money to get that done (and ensure the vendor stays alive). If you don't want to use a closed-source product then that's your prerogative, but I don't see how you're making a dev/engineering decis…

because the source is important, it tells the buyer they have a future if they no longer like your services; closed source means they are locked into whatever fresh hell might come upon your company which in turn unleashes fresh hell upon their decision to buy in.. in 2018+ it's just a smart decision to make

Good luck with the source code of a database you didn't write...

Re: MemSQL is now free to use for databases with up to 128GB of RAM usage

#99

Post by jessedhillon »

shin_lao wrote: post #98
moocowtruck wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

because the source is important, it tells the buyer they have a future if they no longer like your services; closed source means they are locked into whatever fresh hell might come upon your company which in turn unleashes fresh hell upon their decision to buy in.. in 2018+ it's just a smart decision to make

Good luck with the source code of a database you didn't write...

I recently was able to unfuck my way out of a 300GB data loss resulting from a failed DB upgrade. By looking into the commit history of PostgreSQL, finding the commit with the PG_CATALOG_VERSION I needed, and compiling from that revision, I was able to re-run the upgrade with the parameters I needed. I'm not sure what I would have done if that had been MS SQL Server or something else.

Re: MemSQL is now free to use for databases with up to 128GB of RAM usage

#100

Post by manigandham »

jessedhillon wrote: post #99
shin_lao wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good luck with the source code of a database you didn't write...

I recently was able to unfuck my way out of a 300GB data loss resulting from a failed DB upgrade. By looking into the commit history of PostgreSQL, finding the commit with the PG_CATALOG_VERSION I needed, and compiling from that revision, I was able to re-run the upgrade with the parameters I needed. I'm not sure what I would have done if that had been MS SQL Server or something else.

You would send in a support ticket to the company and they would solve it for you.
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