What 'debate' are they talking about? It's a free for all shouting match.
Twitter to remove ‘like’ tool in a bid to improve the quality of debate
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Re: Twitter to remove ‘like’ tool in a bid to improve the quality of debate
#92I don't think quality of "debate" on Twitter can be salvaged. Everything was designed for "engagement" and turned out to be rage-inducing machine. Quote-retweet is used to send followers to harass the person responsible for the awful tweet. RT is choir-preaching (you're a monster if you don't RT that kicking babies is bad), and replies to twitter-celebrities' tweets give everyone their 15 minutes of fame to post the…
sure it can. the higher the effort the better. they should remove retweets too. i cant remember how many people i have unfollowed because they keep retweeting their political nonsense. (in fact they should remove retweets and keep likes for the vanity crowd, as long as those are not interfering with my timeline whatsoever)
You can hide retweets of a specific user by pressing the "Turn off Rewteets" button in the dropdown menu.
Or you can do it en masse in the browser: https://lifehacker.com/how-to-disable-all-retweets-on-twitte...
I prefer individual control over central control. Maybe they should make the "Turn off Rewteets" feature more visible.
Re: Twitter to remove ‘like’ tool in a bid to improve the quality of debate
#93I don't think quality of "debate" on Twitter can be salvaged. Everything was designed for "engagement" and turned out to be rage-inducing machine. Quote-retweet is used to send followers to harass the person responsible for the awful tweet. RT is choir-preaching (you're a monster if you don't RT that kicking babies is bad), and replies to twitter-celebrities' tweets give everyone their 15 minutes of fame to post the…
Due to debate getting worse and worse I left both Twitter and Facebook (they both became completely useless and just a waste of time); now it looks like most of low-quality "I am here too doing trivial things, applaud me!" posts moved over to LinkedIn, so I put my account to "passive" state there as well and am considering removing it altogether.
Are there still some places left on Internet for high-quality discussions? Reddit recently ramped up "moderation" and now feels like a mob mentality everywhere with prolific ban give-aways if one's opinion doesn't align 100% with the one of moderators (who sometimes fight with each other); alternatives are full of extreme content that got banned on the mainstream ones, and *chan was always a stable full of manure with some pearls hidden very very deeply for one to waste time finding them.
Re: Twitter to remove ‘like’ tool in a bid to improve the quality of debate
#94I never used 'like' button in the sense of upvote or 'like' in Facebook. I always used it for 'bookmarking' purposes.
Though Twitter added bookmarking feature, it is somehow useless for me as I can't undo this bookmarking operation for individual tweet but I can simply unlike a tweet.
Personally I think Twitter is just not suitable for debating. I mean you can't articulate your view in 280 charscters. Facebook is better suited for this.
Re: Twitter to remove ‘like’ tool in a bid to improve the quality of debate
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
A good example of how not to conduct a debate: setting up straw man arguments and attributing them to vaguely defined enemies.
Having studied philosophy, I can say with some confidence that your comment is the straw man, not mine. My comment may have flaws, but the straw man fallacy isn't one. Also, it's been my experience that a particular segment of the population loves to use "straw man", "whataboutism", "russian bot", etc attacks. Pointing out hypocrisy, making an observation or caricaturing one side isn't a straw man.
Your comment was flagged before I could read. Really curious...:-)
Re: Twitter to remove ‘like’ tool in a bid to improve the quality of debate
#96This seems like a massive mistake to me.
I have 300ish followers. I’ll spend 5 minutes or so crafting a Tweet. If it gets one or two likes, that’s positive reinforcement, it feels worth my time.
It’s rare I’ll get replies unless I said something someone else vehemently disagrees with. So you’re leaving all my reasons not to use the platform, while removing my reasons to use it.
So now best case scenario is a retweet? Meh. This feels like a huge miss-step from a company that doesn’t understand why people use their platform. Honestly, this seems like how you kill a platform.
Re: Twitter to remove ‘like’ tool in a bid to improve the quality of debate
#97Not sure about likes but Twitter without retweets is a much better place. The people I follow rarely say something with their own voice, and I was tired of the "outrage" tweets for every new social issue. my feed is not much quieter, and when my Tweeps do say something, I pay attention.
When you're following artists reetweets can be useful to discover their fellow artists. Not all of twitter is about debating current political events.
Discovery works fine if you can view the friend feed of your favorite artist manually, without it showing up in your friend feed. Livejournal worked like that for many years and there was a ton of discovery happening. In fact I much prefer the livejournal model, where you can post your own content or write comments on other people's content, but cannot like/share/retweet. People whose only contribution is point and grunt shouldn't be allowed to contribute, they only make the site worse for everyone.
Re: Twitter to remove ‘like’ tool in a bid to improve the quality of debate
#98So I guess I'll have to retweet things now to bookmark them. It'd be nice if Twitter could reconcile it's shitty RSS replacement and crazy-drunken-uncle-shouting-into-the-void halves into something coherent.
There’s actually a “bookmark this tweet” option under the more options menu for the tweet.
This is kinda useless. You can bookmark a tweet. But when you undo this bookmarking, all other bookmarked tweets also go.
Re: Twitter to remove ‘like’ tool in a bid to improve the quality of debate
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Every single sentence has a button for taking it out of context" is the best single-sentence summary of Twitter I have yet seen. Thank-you.
People seem determined to write things on Twitter that are absolutely begging to be taken out of context. Sarcasm, inside-jokes, rhetorical hyperbole, assumptions that everyone is following the same story they are, and so on. I don't know why they do it.
The simple answer to this problem has been clear for awhile: Make responses to quote tweets opaque to the original author.
1. Bob quotes a tweet from Alice he thinks his followers will find enraging
2. Bob's followers reply to the tweet with predictable outrage and abuse
3. (present system) Twitter becomes unusable for Alice as she is flooded with mentions from all of the angry and abusive replies to Bob's quote
3. (proposed system) Alice is not shown any of the replies to Bob's tweet. Bob's followers scream into the void.
4. (proposed system, cont'd) Bob's most clever followers know replies will not be seen by Alice, so they @ her directly. However, Twitter is even more clever and has a super-advanced algorithm that goes "if you follow someone who quote-tweeted someone else in the past 48 hours, @-ing the quoted user will not show up in their mentions." New accounts (less than 48 hours old) are also unable to @ anyone at all.
There, I fixed Twitter. Jack, I'll even write out some Jira stories for a very reasonable fee.
Re: Twitter to remove ‘like’ tool in a bid to improve the quality of debate
#100It would be interesting to see how well upvote/downvote would work.