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Re: Teach Yourself to Echolocate: A beginner’s guide to navigating with sound

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Post by hnzix »

mycall wrote: post #38
NeedMoreTea wrote: post #36

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The sad thing for me is that a lot of those strange, eclectic sites are still there, only they became really hard to find. Thanks to Google and other search engines prioritising recency and Brands (with a capital) in all results, the eclectic is penalised to the point of near invisibility. There was never a point to them, but they were hugely interesting. Today there's no point bothering as it would be gone forever a…

Which are your favorites?

I remember Fjord Of The Net Vikings. Dan's Gallery of the Grotesque. I was too young for BBS culture but then I found the Hotline protocol, which gave me a new horizon of musical styles and I even made a music video with some random German dude by mailing CDs across the pond.

Just last night I remembered micromusic.net which introduced me to chiptunes and continues as a ghostship.

Re: Teach Yourself to Echolocate: A beginner’s guide to navigating with sound

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Post by drakonka »

This is so cool, reminds me of a documentary I saw about people who do this (it may have even featured the same guy, I can't remember). After seeing the documentary I spent the next weekend trying to get around my apartment blindfolded, clicking. This article inspires me to try again.

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Post by andrepd »

Waterluvian wrote: post #35
tw1010 wrote: post #15

This article reminds me of how it felt to be on the internet as a child. It seemed like this magical place where around every corner there was hidden an alchemic recipe to achieve something magical, if only you knew how to search in the right places.

Well said. For me the 90s and early 2000s internet was completely magical. My fondest memories of my teens was finally having a computer in my room and the freedom to stay up late and explore the online universe. I met a lot of people and saw the advent of a lot of new things. I wonder if that's going to happen for my kids. Today's internet feels so highly commercialized. All the new exciting discoveries are in the f…

No, I think that very sadly you're 100% right. They won. The internet is commercial. The internet is the corporation's, not the people's. The early, magical, futuristic Internet is gone for good. All we have now is a bastardized version of that ideal of global network.

Re: Teach Yourself to Echolocate: A beginner’s guide to navigating with sound

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Post by andrepd »

Alex3917 wrote: post #76
Waterluvian wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well said. For me the 90s and early 2000s internet was completely magical. My fondest memories of my teens was finally having a computer in my room and the freedom to stay up late and explore the online universe. I met a lot of people and saw the advent of a lot of new things. I wonder if that's going to happen for my kids. Today's internet feels so highly commercialized. All the new exciting discoveries are in the f…

> I wonder if that's going to happen for my kids. I've got a four month old. By the time she's in third or fourth grade, I expect that VR will give her the same kinds of experiences that I had with the web at that age. What made the web exciting wasn't just the fact that it was run by amateurs, it was the fact that there was just an enormous amount of possibility waiting to be explored where we genuinely didn't know…

Please don't be upset that I say this, because you seem to be earnest, but your comment reads like a parody. "VR" and "blockchain" and other buzzwords are new tech o ligues so they necessary are going to be great and revolutionary (in some ill specified way) and therefore will provide "experiences" and "revolutionise the way we do x". Why, you sound like an SV "evangelist" :^)

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Post by Alex3917 »

blhack wrote: post #85
nikofeyn wrote: post #82

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is this a serious comment? i am not that old and not that young, and VR has been "around the corner" for 10 to 15 years already. even with all the hype and the amount of people that have been feverishly working on it, there's basically nothing to show for it. it will come eventually, but not in any useful form anytime soon. what does moore's law have to do with ease of programming? blockchain has no relevance to the…

>is this a serious comment? Is this a serious comment? VR isn't around the corner, it's here. I'm sitting in my living room right now looking at the vive lighthouses on the wall, and my wife and I frequently use VR for all sorts of things.

Exactly. Based on what already exists, my best guess is that it will actually be good after another 2 - 3 iterations of Moore's Law and another 10 years of software and hardware architecture improvements.

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Post by [deleted] »

nikofeyn wrote: post #82
Alex3917 wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I wonder if that's going to happen for my kids. I've got a four month old. By the time she's in third or fourth grade, I expect that VR will give her the same kinds of experiences that I had with the web at that age. What made the web exciting wasn't just the fact that it was run by amateurs, it was the fact that there was just an enormous amount of possibility waiting to be explored where we genuinely didn't know…

is this a serious comment? i am not that old and not that young, and VR has been "around the corner" for 10 to 15 years already. even with all the hype and the amount of people that have been feverishly working on it, there's basically nothing to show for it. it will come eventually, but not in any useful form anytime soon. what does moore's law have to do with ease of programming? blockchain has no relevance to the…

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Re: Teach Yourself to Echolocate: A beginner’s guide to navigating with sound

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Post by rubyfan »

tw1010 wrote: post #15

This article reminds me of how it felt to be on the internet as a child. It seemed like this magical place where around every corner there was hidden an alchemic recipe to achieve something magical, if only you knew how to search in the right places.

That’s why I like HN. I visit only a few news sites per day and HN usually brings a treat that I never would have stumbled on myself.

Re: Teach Yourself to Echolocate: A beginner’s guide to navigating with sound

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Post by m-i-l »

mitchtbaum wrote: post #63

anyone else read the title as e-chocolate? The capital E makes it look like a proper noun, like Email. Crazy thing how these letters in our alphabet work. We need a better alphabet! Ya?

Yes. Better still, I skim read "Teach Yourself to Echolocate" as "Treat Yourself to E-chocolate". Maybe my subconscious is trying to tell me something. Did a bit of an internet search and, unlike e-cigarettes, it seems like e-chocolate doesn't exist, yet.

Re: Teach Yourself to Echolocate: A beginner’s guide to navigating with sound

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Post by DenisM »

arthurcolle wrote: post #61
DenisM wrote: post #39

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And that's what I get for relying on "blind as a bat" folklore without checking it. Thank you. I must now ascertain the veracity of the “as poor as a church mouse” trope.

You should now go donate some bucks to Merlin Tuttle's Bat Conservation for your sins ( https://merlintuttlesbatconservation.kindful.com/ ) ;) since they are by far the coolest mammal. Humans are OK too I guess... I have a really hard time believing any of these echolocation claims by individuals. I can see it maybe coming about if you're visually disabled and over a very long period of time it comes about as your vi…

There you go: https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/poor_as_a_church_mouse

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Post by acct1771 »

andrepd wrote: post #93
Waterluvian wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well said. For me the 90s and early 2000s internet was completely magical. My fondest memories of my teens was finally having a computer in my room and the freedom to stay up late and explore the online universe. I met a lot of people and saw the advent of a lot of new things. I wonder if that's going to happen for my kids. Today's internet feels so highly commercialized. All the new exciting discoveries are in the f…

No, I think that very sadly you're 100% right. They won. The internet is commercial. The internet is the corporation's, not the people's. The early, magical, futuristic Internet is gone for good. All we have now is a bastardized version of that ideal of global network.

It's not gone. Just underground/waiting.
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