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The Lie Generator: Inside the Black Mirror World of Polygraph Job Screenings

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Re: The Lie Generator: Inside the Black Mirror World of Polygraph Job Screenings

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They worked for one of NASA's contractors, not NASA itself. Have you been involved in the hiring process? Most of the people actively looking for work don't have a job for a reason. It's not 'insulting' to see if you can even vaguely do the job in an interview. There's only so much vetting you can do before the 'can you vaguely code your way out of a wet paper bag' step. Also: you didnt used to work in Boulder recent…

Yes I have been involved in that process at multiple companies. If they were in for an actual onsite interview the only thing I cared about was how they effectively they communicate and their thought process to a problem. Vetting isn't hard, the phone screen should have already done that well before a single line of code is written. No I have never worked in Boulder.

You literally can't tell until they write code. Having done hundreds of interviews, that's the clearest take away I have.

The candidates you're trying to avoid are really good at passing a phone screen since they have a lot of experience at it, constantly looking for jobs.

Re: The Lie Generator: Inside the Black Mirror World of Polygraph Job Screenings

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/shrugs Well then congrats to the NSA; they successfully weeded out a spazzy dork

To be honest, the most amazing part of your story is everything that happened at the gas station. Not so much that you were caught on camera pumping the gas, but that they went after you for it, and that it wasn't pursued in a civil context. Not even a mailing you a bill, or sending a collections agency after you. Okay, sure, there was no reason not to go inside and pay cash, and ask what's up with the pump, and mayb…

>And how long did the incident last?

Not long, I left the gas station and received a call from the police within an hour or two, and I kind of remember them telling me it was only happening that morning.

I only remember that it was a Sinclair station

Re: The Lie Generator: Inside the Black Mirror World of Polygraph Job Screenings

#93

I once was gassing up at a station, and for whatever reason the card reader on the pump wasn't charging, but would let me pump gas anyways. So me, and everyone else who'd used that pump that day, received a phone call from the police telling me to go pay for the gas. I figured it was just an honest mistake and didn't think anything of it. Fast forward a bit, to where I am undergoing a polygraph examination for the NS…

...received a phone call from the police telling me to go pay for the gas. I figured it was just an honest mistake and didn't think anything of it So, given that you paid-up for the gas when requested, you didn't intend to permanently deprive the owner of it which suggests that technically it wasn't larceny and could have been sloughed-off as a misunderstanding. Given you were dealing with an NSA interview, sounds li…

"Would you really want to work for an organization that plays those sort of mind games?"

I would like to work for an organization that pays me so I can buy food and pay rent.

Re: The Lie Generator: Inside the Black Mirror World of Polygraph Job Screenings

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I was looking for a statement by the "other side", someone in government who could give a justification as to why they're being used. Is it simply because its the "standard" now, and bureaucrats don't want to stick their neck out by getting rid of it? Is the fact that it is a machine that has been around for awhile, regardless of efficacy, give people that much comfort? Or are enough people really that misinformed? I…

Lots of technology doesn't work, but we're still going to use it. Sometimes because it's better than nothing. Sometimes because no one gets fired for using . And sometimes just because the politicians owe favors to their corporate handlers. Lie detectors, Sea Wolf submarines, facial recognition software, etc etc etc. Many security technologies lie on the spectrum from "impractical" to out and out "doesn't work". But…

That's a rather defeatist attitude to take.

Re: The Lie Generator: Inside the Black Mirror World of Polygraph Job Screenings

#95

I once was gassing up at a station, and for whatever reason the card reader on the pump wasn't charging, but would let me pump gas anyways. So me, and everyone else who'd used that pump that day, received a phone call from the police telling me to go pay for the gas. I figured it was just an honest mistake and didn't think anything of it. Fast forward a bit, to where I am undergoing a polygraph examination for the NS…

...received a phone call from the police telling me to go pay for the gas. I figured it was just an honest mistake and didn't think anything of it So, given that you paid-up for the gas when requested, you didn't intend to permanently deprive the owner of it which suggests that technically it wasn't larceny and could have been sloughed-off as a misunderstanding. Given you were dealing with an NSA interview, sounds li…

I'd definitely want that type of ruthless organization defending my country.

Re: The Lie Generator: Inside the Black Mirror World of Polygraph Job Screenings

#96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes I have been involved in that process at multiple companies. If they were in for an actual onsite interview the only thing I cared about was how they effectively they communicate and their thought process to a problem. Vetting isn't hard, the phone screen should have already done that well before a single line of code is written. No I have never worked in Boulder.

You literally can't tell until they write code. Having done hundreds of interviews, that's the clearest take away I have. The candidates you're trying to avoid are really good at passing a phone screen since they have a lot of experience at it, constantly looking for jobs.

You literally can tell by asking a couple questions and letting them run on. You can smell bullshit over the phone pretty quickly.
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