If something is cheap in terms of the price you pay for it, you're going to pay by something else. Be it poor quality components, information collection or unethical manufacturing processes. Yes, of course I am generalizing. There are good cheap(er) products and bad expensive ones.
Huawei caught cheating performance test for new phones
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#92I used to work at an OEM that did this. When the VW Emissions Scandal was publicized, we removed almost every piece of code that did things like these from all our phones. Not sure if it was ever reverted eventually but performance test might not matter to HN users but it is something that typical consumers do look at when making purchasing decisions, based on our research.
Your second paragraph is completely ethically bankrupt.
That a lie increases sales is at the top of the list of bad reasons to lie to customers (and they are all bad reasons).
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Are those days gone? Benchmark-specific hacks in graphics drivers, I mean, not AGP. :P Also all the outrage when people discovered that a Radeon 9600 was just a Radeon 9800 running in crippled mode, and that you could bridge the tracks and re-enable it in 9800 mode. (Or something similar, anyway, that was a long time ago... :P )
It was the 9500 that could be modded into a 9700. Early versions could be softmodded, this was disabled in later revisions which could only be modded by soldering the additional rendering pipes back on. No idea why I remember this useless piece of information. Also on a completely different note, the 9700 Pro which was the flagship card of that generation, cost about $300. Times have changed.
Thanks! I wasn't in the market for one at the time (I don't think I had a job yet) but remember the furore. The idea that someone would sell hardware that deliberately performed below its potential was shocking to a lot of people. I guess it still is now, for instance the Tesla "60kWh" cars which actually had 70kWh packs and had extra range enabled with an OTA update ahead of a hurricane.
Re: Huawei caught cheating performance test for new phones
#94If something is cheap in terms of the price you pay for it, you're going to pay by something else. Be it poor quality components, information collection or unethical manufacturing processes. Yes, of course I am generalizing. There are good cheap(er) products and bad expensive ones.
AFAIK Chinese companies make money (in China) with the software they ship on their phones, and the associated Internet services. They all have a slew of what we'd call bloatware, but apparently Chinese people expect it and enjoy it for it being "free stuff".
I don't really know what's their roadmap for Western markets considering nobody wants to let off their Google world. Even though the cynics among us will placate it as the Party bankrolling it for spying.
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#95But it's cheap
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If you don't mind being stuck storage-wise with no SD card slot... 4k videos fill up internal storage pretty quickly.
When you buy a Google phone you get unlimited backup storage in Google Photos. You never think again about things like that.
You can use unlim google photo backup on your iPhone as well.
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#97>however, when an unlabeled version of the benchmark test was run, the phones were unable to recognize it and, as a result, displayed lower performances.
>In other words, the phones aren’t so smart after all.
If I may, also the fact that benchmarks are normally/usually "recognizable" through some "label" doesn't seem "smart" to me.
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> Have you seen the rig Apple uses? I cant find this, do you have a link? I'm quite interested in what they do.
Well there is this: https://youtu.be/OkPter7MC1I
I don't doubt that is the kind of setup they use, but on this video I see a link to buy the lense advertised but it is not really implied that is what Apple used. Do we have a real knowledge of what hardware they really use for their materials? It would really be interesting to know at least for an information point of view.
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If you don't mind being stuck storage-wise with no SD card slot... 4k videos fill up internal storage pretty quickly.
When you buy a Google phone you get unlimited backup storage in Google Photos. You never think again about things like that.
Unlimited backup storage for low-quality, highly-compressed photos. If you want to store photos the way they were shot, you'll quickly run out of space and will have to pay up.
(That's what made me pay Google directly for the first time; extra storage for backing up photos.)
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I am not surprised as others have been cought doing the same. Anyone remember the DSLR in the reflection in a Nokia ad that was supposedly shot a Nokia? Have you seen the rig Apple uses? doesn't look much like a phone anymore but technically is still an iPhone. Sadly the P20 pro has an incredible camera and would stand on its own without forgery. All I really care about is that they unlock their bootloader. The marke…
> Have you seen the rig Apple uses? I cant find this, do you have a link? I'm quite interested in what they do.
It's all about lighting, and doesn't have to have some complicated rigs. These guys have done a bunch of videos on getting professional shots out an iPhone. For example:
https://fstoppers.com/education/new-iphone-fashion-shoot-bik...
https://fstoppers.com/commercial/iphone-fashion-shoot-lee-mo...
For big money advertising shots, I'm sure Apple uses gimbals/tripods. I haven't seen any proof they attach giant Sony/Nikon lenses though.