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The Nuclear Power Plant of the Future May Be Floating Near Russia

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Re: The Nuclear Power Plant of the Future May Be Floating Near Russia

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cpncrunch wrote: post #89
mirimir wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK, I wasn't clear enough. The language is darkly evocative, of sloppiness and danger. I mean, "warren of tight corridors". And "steep staircases", which are very typical for ships, by the way. And "pipes, wires", which again is pretty typical, even for your average trendy restaurant. And "Cyrillic letters"? I'm not sure what to make of that. It rather states the obvious.

>I'm not sure what to make of that They're just trying to paint a picture for the reader.

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Re: The Nuclear Power Plant of the Future May Be Floating Near Russia

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cpncrunch wrote: post #89
mirimir wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK, I wasn't clear enough. The language is darkly evocative, of sloppiness and danger. I mean, "warren of tight corridors". And "steep staircases", which are very typical for ships, by the way. And "pipes, wires", which again is pretty typical, even for your average trendy restaurant. And "Cyrillic letters"? I'm not sure what to make of that. It rather states the obvious.

>I'm not sure what to make of that They're just trying to paint a picture for the reader.

That, we agree about.

Re: The Nuclear Power Plant of the Future May Be Floating Near Russia

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Post by mikeash »

_ph_ wrote: post #39
dmos62 wrote: post #32

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> unsolved problem of disposing the nuclear waste I'm not sure what you mean by unsolved disposal. Nuclear waste from power plants is stored in secure facilities. It takes up a manageable amount of space, is low maintanance and isn't dangerous. Furthermore, future reactors will be able to reuse it; the current reactors only use up a small fraction of the fuel. So actually, you wouldn't even want to throw it away. Als…

What do you mean by "secure facilities"? Yes, currently the nuclear waste is in intermediate storage facilities. Which are buildings, with an useful life time of 50 years. Unless a nuclear technology for reusing or processing the waste appears, we are talking about safe storage for thousands of years.

There’s lots of other hazardous waste which remains dangerous literally forever. Only needing safe storage for thousands of years is pretty good.

Re: The Nuclear Power Plant of the Future May Be Floating Near Russia

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Post by mirimir »

istjohn wrote: post #90
mirimir wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OK, I wasn't clear enough. The language is darkly evocative, of sloppiness and danger. I mean, "warren of tight corridors". And "steep staircases", which are very typical for ships, by the way. And "pipes, wires", which again is pretty typical, even for your average trendy restaurant. And "Cyrillic letters"? I'm not sure what to make of that. It rather states the obvious.

Did you see the pictures? I'd say the description is accurate. The ship lacks the brightly-lit, clean, polished interior I would expect to see in a European, Asian, or American nuclear facility. It's kind of dingy looking to be blunt. Sure, a claustrophobic architecture is not surprising for a ship, but most readers' experience of large boats--if any--is likely to be with cruise ships. Should the author have omitted…

Have you spent much time in industrial facilities? Especially prototypes?

Re: The Nuclear Power Plant of the Future May Be Floating Near Russia

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Post by thx11389793 »

stochastic_monk wrote: post #88
halhod wrote: post #18

I took a broader look at Russia's nuclear power program here - https://www.economist.com/europe/2018/08/02/the-world-relies...

I particularly enjoyed the Atoms For Peace subtitle, the name of one of Thom Yorke’s side projects.

it's a reference to Eisenhower's famous 1953 speech

Re: The Nuclear Power Plant of the Future May Be Floating Near Russia

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Post by hansthehorse »

dmos62 wrote: post #32
_ph_ wrote: post #24

The nuclear power plant of the future can be found in a science museum. All dangers of a catastrophic accident aside, nuclear energy has become economically infeasible. Just recently, half-build powerplants have been abandoned in the US for pure financial reasons, and the other projects under constructions face severe cost problems too. And this is not counting for the still unsolved problem of disposing the nuclear…

> unsolved problem of disposing the nuclear waste I'm not sure what you mean by unsolved disposal. Nuclear waste from power plants is stored in secure facilities. It takes up a manageable amount of space, is low maintanance and isn't dangerous. Furthermore, future reactors will be able to reuse it; the current reactors only use up a small fraction of the fuel. So actually, you wouldn't even want to throw it away. Als…

The spent fuel building on most all sites have a corrugated metal roll up door. It is, without a doubt, the most vulnerable area in the plant. Spent over 20 years as an Operations Plant Supervisor, licensed at CE PWR plants.

Re: The Nuclear Power Plant of the Future May Be Floating Near Russia

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Post by boomboomsubban »

mirimir wrote: post #95
istjohn wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you see the pictures? I'd say the description is accurate. The ship lacks the brightly-lit, clean, polished interior I would expect to see in a European, Asian, or American nuclear facility. It's kind of dingy looking to be blunt. Sure, a claustrophobic architecture is not surprising for a ship, but most readers' experience of large boats--if any--is likely to be with cruise ships. Should the author have omitted…

Have you spent much time in industrial facilities? Especially prototypes?

It still looks dingy even if dingy is usual. So from my perspective it seems like a description rather than a criticism. Not a necessary paragraph, but more likely included to justify the reporter's visit to the ship than some attack.
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