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Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt

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Re: Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt

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Post by wdewind »

cmurf wrote: post #76
shawn wrote: post #53

Toilet paper might also be causing hemorrhoids. Consider that our bodies were not evolved to use toilet paper, and that hemorrhoids are virtually unheard of in third-world countries that lack TP. (I haven't confirmed that latter claim. It's just something I read once, somewhere.) Anyone who's been sick and had to go to the loo multiple times in a row will notice how painful it becomes. I'm not sure it would be painfu…

I think it's not the TP as much as it is pushing due to a) constipation which is usually due to a lower fiber diet, and b) not squatting. https://www.nadialabs.com/pages/how-to-use-the-toilet-correc... It takes me less time to pass a number 2, than to go number 1. It is not loose, but it is soft and just ... blooop, done. When it's like modeling clay - not getting enough fiber! :-D

Since you're the one bringing this this time up I'll throw this out there: fiber is the source of as many problems as solutions. The idea that high fiber diets are appropriate for everyone is not supported by the science, and there are tons of places where reducing fiber is tremendously beneficial. Look into the FODMAP diet, for one obvious example.

Re: Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt

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Post by ghthor »

markrages wrote: post #75
ghthor wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Standing desks in open offices make me feel uncomfortable. I get pretty bad anxiety when I feel like I'm bothering someone else so I tend to try and only stand when my neighbors are standing. At home office desk is 100% standing, DIY table mounted on top of 2 wooden chairs. If I'm getting tired of standing and leaning around, time for a walk. My productivity is so much higher at home compared to my companies open off…

Reminds me of the Peopleware story about cubicles being sold as modular furniture, but God help you if you actually reconfigure the cubicles to suit your team's organization.

It's like giving a kid a prebuilt Lego model and expecting them to never take it apart and build something else. No sane parent would expect that, I wonder why I keep all my creative ideas to myself and struggle with motivation problems and execution inititive...huh... can't be that I have zero agency granted to me in arranging my workspace. Heh

Re: Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt

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Post by postpawl »

allthenews wrote: post #54
shawn wrote: post #53

Toilet paper might also be causing hemorrhoids. Consider that our bodies were not evolved to use toilet paper, and that hemorrhoids are virtually unheard of in third-world countries that lack TP. (I haven't confirmed that latter claim. It's just something I read once, somewhere.) Anyone who's been sick and had to go to the loo multiple times in a row will notice how painful it becomes. I'm not sure it would be painfu…

I've read that the culprit is not toilet paper, but the face that we sit when we shit, while we ostensibly evolved to squat. So the bowels don't straighten out as they should, and the excessive pushing leads to pressure which gradually causes blood vessels to bulge over time. Also, baby wipes work for adults too.

“leads to pressure which gradually causes blood vessels to bulge over time”

Genuinely curious, are there any studies that have shown that?

Re: Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt

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Post by namibj »

copperx wrote: post #84
emodendroket wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, what do they say about lying in bed all day?

I've always wondered about that. It can't be good for your muscle tone, but my guess it's healthier than sitting or standing.

There are ways to take most pressure of your spine, while still allowing you to sanely use a mouse/keyboard (the later has to be split). It's mostly a fitted seat with a semi-fancy headrest, the latter has to be designed to keep your head from rolling to the side. Also you need slightly channeled armrests, which need to be adapted in extend/channel depth depending on how far your hands have to move. If you use a steno keyboard, likely not at all, if you use a graphics tablet, likely much further.

You still might need to move every once in a while though.

Re: Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt

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Post by gizmo385 »

baxtr wrote: post #89
allthenews wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've read that the culprit is not toilet paper, but the face that we sit when we shit, while we ostensibly evolved to squat. So the bowels don't straighten out as they should, and the excessive pushing leads to pressure which gradually causes blood vessels to bulge over time. Also, baby wipes work for adults too.

Very informative video about this subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbYWhdLO43Q

Informative is...one way to describe that video...

Re: Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt

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Post by Tharkun »

Moru wrote: post #57
imgabe wrote: post #23

Minor quibble, but halogen-lit offices? Who is sitting under halogen lamps all day? Most office lights are LED these days or maybe fluorescent if they're older.

Leds can flicker even worse than flourescent. Test it with your mobile camera, shove it up to the lights real close and see if it starts showing banding all over the screen. The calmest light you get is halogen or a normal lightbulb of the burning rust type.

You can see many (cheaper) leds flicker out of the corner of your eye. Especially led strips. This drives me nuts around xmas, when streets are decorated with cheap, flickering leds.

Re: Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt

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Post by rzzzt »

saagarjha wrote: post #25
plg wrote: post #19

talk to any nurse, surgeon, janitor, etc, and they will tell you that working on your feet all day is horrible for your health working on your butt all day is also horrible for your health it’s as if ... some middle-ground moderation-like situation might be optimal ... my god who would have guessed

I know almost nothing about medicine, but my guess is that the issue is that staying in one place all day is the issue, not whether you’re sitting or standing.

Treadmill desks should be the solution, then.

Re: Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt

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Post by Tharkun »

mamon wrote: post #6

>> Humans evolved to stand upright and outrun their predators Forgive my ignorance, but are there any predators that we actually can outrun? Pretty much every four-legged mammal is faster, except maybe elephants.

I'm not sure why you're being down voted. This is a legitimate question. Humans are endurance hunters, that much is clear. You can't rely on endurance to escape from a faster predator with bigger teeth and sharper claws.

The original statement seems false. Humans did not evolve to outrun their predators, but rather their prey.

Re: Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt

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Post by jm547ster »

namibj wrote: post #94
copperx wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've always wondered about that. It can't be good for your muscle tone, but my guess it's healthier than sitting or standing.

There are ways to take most pressure of your spine, while still allowing you to sanely use a mouse/keyboard (the later has to be split). It's mostly a fitted seat with a semi-fancy headrest, the latter has to be designed to keep your head from rolling to the side. Also you need slightly channeled armrests, which need to be adapted in extend/channel depth depending on how far your hands have to move. If you use a sten…

Got any examples of what this kinda of arrangement looks like? I’m having trouble visualizing

Re: Office Life Is Destroying Your Butt

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Post by thewizardofaus »

markatkinson wrote: post #64

I'm 31 and my lower back has started hurting and giving me issues, especially while sleeping. I always assumed this would only happen much later and technology would have advanced enough by then that I could have gotten a robotic lower back. But here we are. This is even with doing a stairwell run every hour and standing up quite often, and sitting at what some article stated was the best angle, 135 degrees or someth…

Look into adductor/abductor stretches along with hamstring stretches. Tight hips and hammys will pull on your pelvis and cause back pain.
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