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Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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Restricting US companies from doing any business with Russia hurts the US economy too much.

No it doesn’t. Non-energy related trade is basically nil.

Sanctions on specific areas of conflict are not unique or new and they are not limited to online services you can’t sell anything to Crimea doesn’t matter if it’s physical or not.

Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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I honestly don't know, what is vc backed, and how does that turn it's destiny into an exit?

They have taken money from venture capitalists who will expect a return on their investment via a sale. That is how the entire venture capital system works. This is all a matter of public record tho’ it makes uncomfortable reading for some. Those who fled Github to Gitlab when Microsoft bought the former might now find a critical piece of their workflow owned by Oracle!

> They have taken money from venture capitalists who will expect a return on their investment via a sale.

Or, you know, an IPO. Which is precisely the exit they claim to want:

  We want to IPO in 2020, specifically on Wednesday November 18.
https://about.gitlab.com/strategy/

Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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There are a few "cloud portability" companies, but the fundamental problem with this approach is that cloud providers don't offer the same APIs and pricing models. If all you want is virtual machines and block storage, you can do it, but the answer is that your site is going to be more expensive on any of the providers than if you built it for an architecture that fits your cloud. If you design for the strengths of,…

So, I would actually say that you can do it fairly easily with open source software these days. If you need apps to be hosted, something like Flynn can host the apps. If you need Lambda, you can rack your functions natively into OpenFaaS. The issue is that these systems aren't really 'multi-cloud capable'. I really tried to put together a 6 node Flynn cluster with 2 in AWS, 2 in GCP and 2 in Azure but the response ti…

You certainly can implement it - you just won't implement it in a way that's either price-competitive or as easy to operate as the native approach. (Or put another way, there's a reason AWS customers use Lambda instead of OpenFaaS on EC2.) If your goal is to make it work, sure. If your goal is to have a meaningful comparison of price, performance, reliability, and human ops overhead, you won't get that with DIY on top of cloud VMs.

The DIY approach is fantastic when you're interested in operating your own cluster on your own hardware, though - if you're mostly in a place where colo / datacenters makes sense to you, and you need a bit of something like Lambda, don't do a cloud migration just to get there.

Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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Just as a sidenote: Gitlab may no longer be accessible any more from Crimea, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria. From the article: NOTE to users in Crimea, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria GitLab.com may not be accessible after the migration to Google. Google has informed us that there are legal restrictions that are imposed for those countries. See this U.S. Department of the Treasury link for more d…

If they could access Gitlab when on Azure, this is a very shitty regression.

Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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Just as a sidenote: Gitlab may no longer be accessible any more from Crimea, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria. From the article: NOTE to users in Crimea, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria GitLab.com may not be accessible after the migration to Google. Google has informed us that there are legal restrictions that are imposed for those countries. See this U.S. Department of the Treasury link for more d…

This is very sad. We are using GitLab.com because the terms of use says: 21. Governing law [1] This Agreement shall be governed by and interpreted in accordance with the laws of the Netherlands. Is there a code hosting service in Europe or any place of the world that cubans can use? 1. https://about.gitlab.com/terms/#gitlab_com

I believe that GCP is accessible from all of those places. They simply don't guarantee it will remain available, or have any kind of SLA.

Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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That would be a pretty awesome development. But Google buying a Rails platform would be kind of a surprise move.

I'd bet "being on the Rails stack" would carry little weight if they were deciding to acquire them.

Software stack is actually a pretty big decider.

php was pretty much a dealbreaker for google acquisition years ago. It pretty much means google might be happy to buy shares in the company as an investment, but won't buy the whole company and plan to integrate it into their own offering.

Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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They have taken money from venture capitalists who will expect a return on their investment via a sale. That is how the entire venture capital system works. This is all a matter of public record tho’ it makes uncomfortable reading for some. Those who fled Github to Gitlab when Microsoft bought the former might now find a critical piece of their workflow owned by Oracle!

> They have taken money from venture capitalists who will expect a return on their investment via a sale. Or, you know, an IPO. Which is precisely the exit they claim to want: We want to IPO in 2020, specifically on Wednesday November 18. https://about.gitlab.com/strategy/

Is there any word on how big their losses are, assuming they don’t make a profit? GitHub wasn’t making a profit anymore, but they also don’t provide as much for free as Gitlab (not that Gitlab is doing it purely to be nice. It’s a key differentiator for them). I’d imagine Gitlab’a financials are weaker than GitHub. IPO would probably be a lot weaker play than an acquisition. But I’m just guessing.

Re: Update on Our Planned Move from Azure to Google Cloud Platform

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Why is it that Microsoft are ok with serving traffic from countries under embargo but Google are not? As far as I know Amazon don't follow the embargo like this with AWS traffic either.

This might have something to do with how data on GCP will be encrypted at rest. US law treats encryption effectively as a weapon and restricts where products that include encryption can be shared.

Do you have any source for this?
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