The solution to this while keeping the same form factor is to create a macbook pro that is waterproof so that a keyboard can be washed out if any dust has accumulated below the keys.
Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Keyboard
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Re: Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Keyboard
#92Realistically, I just can't really see Apple fixing this by introducing a new keyboard design that's any thicker. As much as I would love to hear "We've heard your feedback on the keyboards and we've made some drastic changes to address them in our new Macbook Pro", it just doesn't seem like their style. What do others think they're going to do for their next release of laptops?
Recent patents granted to or filed by Apple:
1. Touchscreen keyboard with haptic feedback: https://appleinsider.com/articles/18/03/15/apple-seeks-paten... 2. Protection against duct/crumbles/liquid for their keyboard: http://www.patentlyapple.com/patently-apple/2018/03/a-new-ap...
Re: Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Keyboard
#93Realistically, I just can't really see Apple fixing this by introducing a new keyboard design that's any thicker. As much as I would love to hear "We've heard your feedback on the keyboards and we've made some drastic changes to address them in our new Macbook Pro", it just doesn't seem like their style. What do others think they're going to do for their next release of laptops?
Maglev keyboard: https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/1/9/16826146/ne...
Re: Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Keyboard
#94Realistically, I just can't really see Apple fixing this by introducing a new keyboard design that's any thicker. As much as I would love to hear "We've heard your feedback on the keyboards and we've made some drastic changes to address them in our new Macbook Pro", it just doesn't seem like their style. What do others think they're going to do for their next release of laptops?
Short of fitting a keyboard condom, or iPad (no doubt called TouchBoard) where the keyboard used to be, what can they do? Make the battery thinner so they can get sane key travel back within the case without increasing overall thickness? So I expect to see a couple more releases of ultra thin keyboards with various fix mechanisms before they accept that rules of physics and dust apply to them too. :)
Have a keyboard that has increased travel when the laptop is open. (raised up?) And have it return to a compressed state when the screen is closed.
Re: Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Keyboard
#95Having interfaced with Apple in a different way (apart from owning a new MBP and an iPhone X) I'd say the issue is, and continues to be, growing pains. They're certainly losing the lead in software engineer talent (giving it away to whom, I'm not sure). But the single most horrible experience I've had with Apple in the last year was trying to get software published on the App Store. That's a department that's so larg…
Interested to know why the gender of the manager matters?
If one is angry, it does!
Re: Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Keyboard
#96Realistically, I just can't really see Apple fixing this by introducing a new keyboard design that's any thicker. As much as I would love to hear "We've heard your feedback on the keyboards and we've made some drastic changes to address them in our new Macbook Pro", it just doesn't seem like their style. What do others think they're going to do for their next release of laptops?
Replace the entire keyboard with an oversized touchbar? ;)
They filed a patent application for it already: http://appft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=H...
Re: Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Keyboard
#97Apple biggest UX failures always stem from putting form before function. There is a lower limit to thinness/lightness before consumers just don't care, and it was passed long ago. There was great progress made with the unibody Macbook Pros and the Macbook Airs but these latest models are so thin that it's actually annoying and leads to issues like poor battery life, lack of repair-ability, and malfunctioning keyboard…
The iOS UI is similarly crippled. I got my parents an iPad as they were moving countries and needed a small portable device that needed no maintenance. To Apple's credit, the iPad is basically impossible to screw up software-wise.
But even the initial setup UI places form over function. Basically there is no way to tell what is a button and sometimes you have to click the word at the top to move on and sometimes the word on the bottom. It's completely bonkers.
Re: Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Keyboard
#98Having interfaced with Apple in a different way (apart from owning a new MBP and an iPhone X) I'd say the issue is, and continues to be, growing pains. They're certainly losing the lead in software engineer talent (giving it away to whom, I'm not sure). But the single most horrible experience I've had with Apple in the last year was trying to get software published on the App Store. That's a department that's so larg…
Serious question: Why didn't you mention the genders of the the people from "the "good old days"" but had to say over and over again that you were dealing with "Middle manager woman"
Take your timewasting elsewhere.
Re: Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Keyboard
#99Having interfaced with Apple in a different way (apart from owning a new MBP and an iPhone X) I'd say the issue is, and continues to be, growing pains. They're certainly losing the lead in software engineer talent (giving it away to whom, I'm not sure). But the single most horrible experience I've had with Apple in the last year was trying to get software published on the App Store. That's a department that's so larg…
Serious question: Why didn't you mention the genders of the the people from "the "good old days"" but had to say over and over again that you were dealing with "Middle manager woman"
I'm confused what the point of this question is. Would you have found it more satisfying if the parent had said "I had a couple of [male] contacts from the good ol' days"?
Re: Apple Engineers Its Own Downfall with the Macbook Pro Keyboard
#100Having interfaced with Apple in a different way (apart from owning a new MBP and an iPhone X) I'd say the issue is, and continues to be, growing pains. They're certainly losing the lead in software engineer talent (giving it away to whom, I'm not sure). But the single most horrible experience I've had with Apple in the last year was trying to get software published on the App Store. That's a department that's so larg…
Interested to know why the gender of the manager matters?
Take your time-wasting irrelevant questions elsewhere.