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Re: Facebook confirms that it tracks mouse movements

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post #76

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yeah it's not like your mouse movements is a serious privacy issue

I guess mouse movements are a very good way to identify people across websites. It's also an efficient way to distinguish people from machines. Think about the click-only reCaptcha for example.

Change mouse brand to surreptitiously become another person without telling a single lie or changing any normal user data :)

Re: Facebook confirms that it tracks mouse movements

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post #80

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Perhaps a noob question but doesn't the browser ask for permission to use the microphone? And hence: they can't really listen in if you haven't given it explicitly.

If you attempted to record a video once with the Facebook app, it then has the microphone permissions forever.

Plus: At least Instagram and Messenger will force you to enable the microphone to let you use the camera even if just to take pictures. Now I always take pictures from the Camera app and simply load it into the app instead of giving them permission to use the microphone.

Re: Facebook confirms that it tracks mouse movements

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This is beyond absurd. Why would you do that? What could go wrong? Is this a social network or spy agency?

Lots of websites you would not expect do this; it's not for spying on users but to improve the user experience. Being able to aggregate data or inspect individual sessions is a useful tool to learn how users navigate with a site. Keyboard keystrokes get captured too but the systems are intelligent enough to filter out passwords and payment details. I don't really like this form of monitoring either but I've seen it i…

>it's not for spying on users but to improve the user experience

So, it's for spying on users. What happens then?

Re: Facebook confirms that it tracks mouse movements

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Does this allow detecting drug addicts and recommending treatment?

"We think you may have Parkinson's, would you like to visit the doctor?"

"We think you may have Parkinson's, your driver's license has been suspended until you can confirm your fitness to drive. Also you're no longer registered to vote"

Re: Facebook confirms that it tracks mouse movements

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Earnest question from someone without much front-end knowledge: how is browser-based mouse tracking performed in a way that doesn't significantly degrade performance?

Do they use some type of client-side library that caches data for a while and asynchronously uploads it occasionally? Or occasionally try to asynchronously sample the mouse position and just get a coarser set of data?

It seems like real-time requests that respond to mouse changes would create huge performance problems and/or be easily stopped with browser extensions.

Re: Facebook confirms that it tracks mouse movements

#96
post #36

as does every person here using Mouseflow, LogRocket, or a dozen other off the shelf solutions. is this really that surprising?

Seriously my thought.. Pretty much every company does that. Not especially for detecting if its a Human or AI, but for understanding if the User has problems with the Usability of the Product..

Yes, of course, I'm sure Facebook only uses this data for usability studies. I'm also sure they could pretext all other tracking they do to some other marginally positive use case.

Re: Facebook confirms that it tracks mouse movements

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post #10

This is beyond absurd. Why would you do that? What could go wrong? Is this a social network or spy agency?

Pretty much every major website does this. Not only that, if you are using windows 10, it does this too. Not only does windows 10 track your mouse movements, it tracks your keystrokes and it scans your filesystem and sends the meta data info back to microsoft. It's a very anti-privacy environment we live in right now. But it's for our own good or so we are told.

To be fair, you can turn that stuff off. But most people probably don't understand that it's doing that, so they don't even think of it.

Re: Facebook confirms that it tracks mouse movements

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post #61

Lol @ the Facebook army astro-turfing the comment section. "But it's not nefarious..." "But everybody else is doing it too..." "It's not for surveillance, profiling and shadow profiling, pinky promise, trust us..."

"Everyone else is doing it" is totally a valid thing to point out here. It means that, while you can get up in arms about it, you need to get up in arms about the practice industry-wide, using the facebook name to make it sound worse than it is makes this either dishonest or ill-informed.

It's a lot easier to get one company (or person) to stop a practice only they do than it is to get them to stop doing something that everyone else does too.

Re: Facebook confirms that it tracks mouse movements

#100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you attempted to record a video once with the Facebook app, it then has the microphone permissions forever.

Plus: At least Instagram and Messenger will force you to enable the microphone to let you use the camera even if just to take pictures. Now I always take pictures from the Camera app and simply load it into the app instead of giving them permission to use the microphone.

Can apps with access to the camera simply record video and audio whenever they want, even while running in the background?
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