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Re: New Tesla software to offer 'full' autonomy, Musk says

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Post by Piskvorrr » Wed, Jun 13, 2018, 8:38 AM UTC

Tolika wrote: post #6

What's the point? Even if it were to be true, there's no regulation and approval for it to be used on public roads. Seems like another PR stunt from tesla to induce hype.

And it's working. I've seen so many tweets and articles "Tesla announces fully autonomous cars" that I'm genuinely worried about what would happen if this announcement is actually fulfilled.

Re: New Tesla software to offer 'full' autonomy, Musk says

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Post by Piskvorrr » Wed, Jun 13, 2018, 8:39 AM UTC

ummonk wrote: post #39

It will probably be catching up to the Audi A8's traffic jam pilot. I.e. full self driving under certain limited situations.

"Full self-driving in limited situations" - do you even see the contradiction?

Re: New Tesla software to offer 'full' autonomy, Musk says

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Post by ummonk » Wed, Jun 13, 2018, 6:31 PM UTC

Piskvorrr wrote: post #92

ummonk wrote: post #39

It will probably be catching up to the Audi A8's traffic jam pilot. I.e. full self driving under certain limited situations.

"Full self-driving in limited situations" - do you even see the contradiction?

I don't think that is a contradiction. It means that there are some situations (probably traffic jams) where the car can fully drive itself, instead of merely assisting you as you drive the car.

Re: New Tesla software to offer 'full' autonomy, Musk says

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Post by Piskvorrr » Wed, Jun 13, 2018, 10:01 PM UTC

ummonk wrote: post #93

Piskvorrr wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Full self-driving in limited situations" - do you even see the contradiction?

I don't think that is a contradiction. It means that there are some situations (probably traffic jams) where the car can fully drive itself, instead of merely assisting you as you drive the car.

If there's a need for a human to take over (e.g. traffic jam dispersed and the car can no longer drive autonomously), that's not full autonomy (Level 5), that's weasel-autonomy (or, more charitably, Level 4): "autonomous, autonomous, auton-gotcha, not autonomous, that block straight ahead is your problem now." That does sound familiar, doesn't it.