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Move along. Engineers will continue to use good technology they understand (like React) while newcomers will continue to try to emotionally justify technologies they don't want to learn and use.
Oh Brad, you do not know what you are talking about right off the bat. Let's go through your list. 1. Every document has a root node. is your root node now. You had a root node before, you have a root node now. 2. Do a search and replace. That's easy. 3. That's another search and replace. 4. You don't need to call a constructor, you don't need to use bind, and you don't need to assign your functions to an variable on…
React is great, mostly for bigger web apps that do need a framework and more structure, such as an SPA with multiple team members working on it.
Just like jQuery is great to do some quick and simple dom manipulation.
I've tried both opposites; I've been on teams working on large apps in jQuery, and it's hell. And I've also used React to implement simple little things, and it's also hell (part of it for reasons Brad mentions in this article).
I don't have much experience with Vuejs but I've been using it instead of React recently, and it's refreshing indeed. Just like jQuery you can just import it with a script tag and start doing some dom manipulation and it makes the code much cleaner than jQuery.
And as others have said, jQuery is not bad - it's awesome. I guess it didn't age very well with the JS env evolving, but it's great.
When I see this: var formname = $(this).find('.formname'); formname.empty(); formname.append(n_input); I think why not just use plain Javascript and do this: document.querySelector('.formname').innerHTML=n_input; Coders that are attached to libraries and frameworks always seem so afraid to use the tech already available. That they don't even look at how the basic solution would look like.
Modern libraries such as React and Vue however play a totally different role. They introduce proper architecture to web development such as separating the view from your business logic with data binding, they can not be compared with jquery which was just a nicer way of doing the same old manual DOM manipulation.
> React is the new jQuery Anyone who uses "the new jQuery" as some sort of insult (as it seems Sara did in her tweet) probably hasn't been a developer for more than a few years or is just trying to sound smarter than they are by bashing an easy target. The reason jQuery got so popular is that it made common tasks so much easier than anything else at the time. Anyone who was doing web development before jQuery knows w…
If you tear out something like jQuery, you’re going to have to figure out a way to get those accordions to expand and collapse again. If you tear out React, you get a blank page. React is a big commitment. This is probably the only real concern I see. jQuery is a library for DOM manipulation. It can co-exist with many other libraries. React is an entire framework. These days you need jquery less because browsers are…
I'm sorry but this is not a problem. If you commit to React then you commit to it. You are not suppoused to change it every other year.
Imagine a big C++ Qt application. Will you ever think of changing Qt on it, and expect no huge cost? No. That's unreasonable.
So what he wants is not only a cross-browser, cross-platform framework (and much more) but also a framework that is somehow "cross-framework"!!
This is really getting me. People, such flexibility and ubiquity is NOT FREE. People this days complain about the web being to complicated, and that it is a lot of complexity to make something "simple as a webapp". I agree, it is. But that simple multimedia webapp you get today works over a distributed network, in almost every platform, from mobile to desktop to almost everywhere. This kind of ubiquity will be unthinkable in the early 90s/2000s without investing on a huge number of experienced dev teams and a huge especialized codebase(s). Today some javascript framework and markup will give you almost the same product. Yes, I think the web ecosystem can be improved. A lot. And the end result is not always 1:1 comparable at many levels with what you would get back in the day with native apps and a load of work and experience. But still.
People complain but they don't know what they are getting.
When I see this: var formname = $(this).find('.formname'); formname.empty(); formname.append(n_input); I think why not just use plain Javascript and do this: document.querySelector('.formname').innerHTML=n_input; Coders that are attached to libraries and frameworks always seem so afraid to use the tech already available. That they don't even look at how the basic solution would look like.
> React is the new jQuery Anyone who uses "the new jQuery" as some sort of insult (as it seems Sara did in her tweet) probably hasn't been a developer for more than a few years or is just trying to sound smarter than they are by bashing an easy target. The reason jQuery got so popular is that it made common tasks so much easier than anything else at the time. Anyone who was doing web development before jQuery knows w…
Is jQuery unnecessary because the functionality is built into js now? Or browsers? Or other libraries? If it's libraries, are those libraries providing a superset of jQuery or are they just better?
Ok, so Brad is already making sweeping declarations about React, yet less than a month ago he specifically posted about his struggle to learn it: http://bradfrost.com/blog/post/my-struggle-to-learn-react/ cool...
Well, of course he will struggle to learn React. Web design and software engineering are two different fields… Not saying he needs a master in CS to learn React, but he will surely need to learn a bit of programming and JavaScript before jumping on it.
> React is the new jQuery Anyone who uses "the new jQuery" as some sort of insult (as it seems Sara did in her tweet) probably hasn't been a developer for more than a few years or is just trying to sound smarter than they are by bashing an easy target. The reason jQuery got so popular is that it made common tasks so much easier than anything else at the time. Anyone who was doing web development before jQuery knows w…
Well kids these days. They said webkit is the new IE, and said the IE era was IE7. Sigh I cant even name a similar piece of software in web development history that is as important as jQuery. Despite Web development as a whole, back end or front end is still no where near being good enough, it is still many times better then the old days.
Apache?