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Re: Make front end shit again

#92
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Oh man, I love stuff like this. It's too bad that the web has been taken over by bootstrap, WordPress, and squarspace. But you can do a lot with raw html, css, and JavaScript! And as a bonus, it ends up looking really unique. It's sort of weird that whenever I show friends the dumb shit I make [1], their immediate reaction is lump it in with geocities. [1] ex. http://fastcashmoneyplus.biz

I love how some of the morons on bitcointalk don't realise that it's a parody. Regardless, this is a masterpiece. I can't begin to believe to what lengths you went making it.

Re: Make front end shit again

#94
Oh boy, it's a bit far fetched if not downright cynical (or maybe I'm oversensitive and this was not meant to be a response to people who cry about minute long cached webpack compile times or megabytes of angular payloads).

Frontend complexity went through the roof in the last ten years and compared to desktop software (not geocities) our developer tools and end results are not that great (ymmv).

But that's just my personal opinion, after fifteen years of web development and growing up along the c64 - 286 - pentium road, debugging in Watcom and fooling around in Turbo Vision.

Re: Make front end shit again

#95
I would rather opt for this then the modern JavaScript, large graphics, native code, etc., that is only there to bog down your system, and/or make your browser crash, and so forth.. (My opinion/experience.)

When you have en article/text that require over 10 MB to load, I can't say I'm convinced of the benefit. The only reason I visited the site in the first place were to read the article (10-15 lines of text), and/or view some minor/related photos.

Guess that's why Atom/RSS is on the rice again I suppose. (DISCLAIMER: Just started using Newsboat[1] via the terminal, and I freaking love it :) )

Note! That is not to say that there isn't some formidable people doing astonishing works, and should be credited accordingly. The web sprawls of infinite possibles, and have something that caters to all.

[1] https://newsboat.org

Re: Make front end shit again

#96

I love the point the site is trying to make but I'm confused as to why this is built with a vue.js static site generator requiring node/npm/yarn and an almost 7,000 line yarn.lock file. Shouldn't this literally be a single page, hand-built HTML file with inline CSS? Is this trying to be self-ironic or something?

It's funny because as humans, we always try to improve things since we are dissatisfied with imperfection.

But we tend to make simple things very complex in order to make them perfect.

The complexity then becomes the problem.

And we are back where we started for another attempt at perfection.

The wheel goes round and round.

Re: Make front end shit again

#97

> We used to make websites because it was fun and at a point we lost the way I know this is just some little tongue in cheek joke, but I can't help but vehemently disagree with this. Never did we only make websites just "because it was fun" any more or less than we do now.

>Never did we only make websites just "because it was fun" any more or less than we do now.

The early internet was incredibly frivolous. Commercial activity was completely banned on ARPANET and NSFNET. SSL didn't come along until 1995. There was a brief but significant period before the first browser wars and the dot-com bubble, when lots of people were interested in this new internet thing but nobody knew what it was for.

I don't want to return to those days, but it's hard to overstate the extent to which the internet was just a toy for geeks.

Re: Make front end shit again

#98

What, no !?

I was hoping for at least one dancing baby.

The lack of an "Under Construction" image -- or, more accurately, several of them -- is also notable, in my opinion.

I seem to recall that every web site in existence in that time period was eternally "under construction".

Re: Make front end shit again

#99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hand-build HTML file with inline CSS, that you edit with $YOURFAVOURITETEXTEDITOR which requires an OS that's 50 million lines of code. And you're complaining about 7000 lines in an auto-generated file, which doesn't even have to be touched nor edited by a human? The tools we use are insignificant, what's important is the result. If the result is a HTML file with inline CSS, who cares how it was created? You can use…

As someone else said you missed the point. I will tack on my own opinion that building sites that only function with javascript is a massive disservice to everyone. From disabled people with accessibility needs, to old hardware/software, and even to security/privacy conscious people the JS paradigm is a massive problem. The trend for "new shiny" has become ridiculous and I find most modern websites to be pretty but r…

Not to mention this all adds up to unnecessary increase of global electricity usage.

(For those who don't care about society in general, consider that this also means your users' batteries last shorter, making their days worse.)

Re: Make front end shit again

#100

I love the point the site is trying to make but I'm confused as to why this is built with a vue.js static site generator requiring node/npm/yarn and an almost 7,000 line yarn.lock file. Shouldn't this literally be a single page, hand-built HTML file with inline CSS? Is this trying to be self-ironic or something?

It's funny because as humans, we always try to improve things since we are dissatisfied with imperfection. But we tend to make simple things very complex in order to make them perfect. The complexity then becomes the problem. And we are back where we started for another attempt at perfection. The wheel goes round and round.

Except this is ugly AND complicated.
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