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NYC Renters Paid Extra $616M Thanks to Airbnb, Study Says

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Re: NYC Renters Paid Extra $616M Thanks to Airbnb, Study Says

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"For each 1 percent of all residential units in a neighborhood listed on Airbnb, rents in that neighborhood went up 1.58 percent, Stringer said." Correlation does not imply causation[1]. Looks to me this is one of the studies that I would label as "shallow" or "problematic". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_cau...

Yes, they calculate using a simple regression with some controls (fixed-effects model): https://comptroller.nyc.gov/reports/the-impact-of-airbnb-on-....

Re: NYC Renters Paid Extra $616M Thanks to Airbnb, Study Says

#92
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does NYC impose heavy restrictions on the height of buildings? I've never been there, but they seem tall to me.

Yes, much of the city is limited to four or five stories or otherwise restricted [1]. Keep in mind also that much of NYC is not just the financial district of Manhattan. In addition to actual height restrictions, neighborhood associations also fight tooth and nail to prevent new development and to limit the height of new development when they can't. [1] https://www1.nyc.gov/site/planning/zoning/districts-tools/re...

Yeah, my neighborhood in Brooklyn is mostly 2 to 3 story building. Many of them were multi-family homes until the 1980's, and are now single family homes.

Re: NYC Renters Paid Extra $616M Thanks to Airbnb, Study Says

#93

For anyone interested, here is the full text of the study: https://www.dropbox.com/s/u4s1fcync2gseyl/AirBnB_Report%20FI... A brief description of how they attempted to control for other factors: > We also control for demographic and economic changes in neighborhood level by including average household income (in log form), population (in log form), and the shares of college-educated and employed residents in the neig…

Any place to download the data used for the regression model?

Re: NYC Renters Paid Extra $616M Thanks to Airbnb, Study Says

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This article is totally worthless without some way to gauge what $616M actually is... I have a VERY hard time believing in NYC that's anything but "piss in the wind" compared to total amount spent on rent.

Too many articles come out with a "shocking number" that doesn't mean anything except to those who don't know the scale.

This is mostly a click-bait article and study.

Re: NYC Renters Paid Extra $616M Thanks to Airbnb, Study Says

#96
post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is still that your $109 is per renting person. A family of five in one dwelling is five renters: but they are not paying 5 x $109 more on their rent because of AirBNB! The denominator has to be the number of rental dwellings; then we have a better idea what the impact is on rental prices, on average. Still, it must be dependent on area, and the size of the place and rent amount. Not everyone pays some sor…

The more specific we try and make the $616M figure, the less accurate a predictor it becomes :-). I didn't want to go too far in that direction.

And anyway, AirBNB allows more people to visit NYC, so it's good for tourism. That has to be counted as money coming in. It's just not going into the pockets of some traditional hoteliers.

Re: NYC Renters Paid Extra $616M Thanks to Airbnb, Study Says

#97

Maybe, but the regression they use to argue this is pretty bonkers...they need to assume that once they control for income, population, education, and employment, the coefficient on the Airbnb share captures the causal effect of Airbnb on prices. But obviously AirBnB share will be correlated with many other things that make a neighborhood nice, which will also be correlated with prices. So this just says that desirab…

Note that the regression is on the differences, y_t - y_t-1 not the levels, just y_t.

So the argument is more subtle, that the "change" in AirBnB share is correlated with changes in rents. So level effects such as being a nice neighborhood are accounted for.

Having said that, a large change in AirBnB share is probably still related to unobservables related to factors that would increase rent. E.g changes in hipness of a neighborhood unaccounted for by changes in demographics. Therefore the $616M figure is biased upwards, though I bet in reality still a large number.

Re: NYC Renters Paid Extra $616M Thanks to Airbnb, Study Says

#98
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Unfortunately, Airbnb is probably the only way a middle-class family can earn money on investment properties. No one in their right mind would rent a $1,000,000 condo for (1% rule) $10,000.

What is the 1% rule? As a landlord I usually assume 0.5% per year. So a million dollar condo would be 50K a year, or about $4200/mo, which is exactly in line with current nyc rents.

The rule is a residential rental is only worth the risk or has a good return if the property can be rented at about 1% of the value per month or more (e.g. a $100k home should rent for $1k/mo). I generally try to get an annual cap rate of 9% or more (1%/mo less expenses).

Re: NYC Renters Paid Extra $616M Thanks to Airbnb, Study Says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But what about the things that aren't true because of AirBnB's presence? Maybe prices for short term stays went down, tourism went up, and there is more tax revenue that can be used to improve the city for the renters. If we only look at one part of the picture we may miss that an overall trend is different. Is it really beneficial to talk about how many died because they were wearing a seat belt without also conside…

> Maybe prices for short term stays went down Sure, allowing residential property to be used for short-term rental drives regular residential rents up and short-term rents down (forcing, over time, more residential proerties to be used for short-term rental to the extent possible), narrowing the gap between short-term and long-term rentals. It makes things less expensive for travellers and more expensive for non-trav…

Perhaps the problem then, is that the city slaps a huge tax burden on travelers who choose to stay in hotels? Last time I stayed in a hotel in NYC, taxes were about 25% of the total cost.

Re: NYC Renters Paid Extra $616M Thanks to Airbnb, Study Says

#100

This article is totally worthless without some way to gauge what $616M actually is... I have a VERY hard time believing in NYC that's anything but "piss in the wind" compared to total amount spent on rent. Too many articles come out with a "shocking number" that doesn't mean anything except to those who don't know the scale. This is mostly a click-bait article and study.

According to [1], there are 2,146,892 occupied rental apartments in NYC. So this works out to an average of $287 per rental per year. Hardly "piss in the wind".

[1] - https://www.nakedapartments.com/guides/nyc/renting-in-new-yo...

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