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The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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Post by StudentStuff »

TheCycoONE wrote: post #75
StudentStuff wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can run Gnome just fine, hardware accelerated video decoding/encoding works, HDMI with a few features is mainline, the only thing left is the Mali GPU, which is a fairly simple GPU as far as that kind of hardware goes, as compared to AMD or Nvidia GPUs. On that note, there has been a fair bit of activity on Lima as of late, which is a big change from a few years ago: https://github.com/yuq/linux-lima/tree/lima-4.…

Isn't Lima for 200 and 400 series. Tinkerboard needs has a 700 which already has kernel support but will need Panfrost for open source userspace.

Lima is for 200 and 400 series, which were what we were discussing earlier in this thread.

Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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Post by coryrc »

oceanman888 wrote: post #77
geerlingguy wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A five year old OptiPlex SFF PC This is more what I'm talking about; I needed a faster option with much more RAM and a proper SATA SSD for one project. I bought a used Lenovo ThinkCentre for about $80, put in a small SSD I had on hand, upgraded the RAM to 8 GB for $20 (one 4GB stick on eBay), and had an i5 with about 100x better overall performance than a Pi 3 B+ (and maybe 10x more power consumption, so not a bad…

How do you interface with arduino? serial?

CDC/ACM, so straight bytestream serial over USB.

Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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Post by Spooky23 »

franciscop wrote: post #53

"Once an SBC approaches $100 or so, there are other options (like a used Intel core i5 desktop) which offer 10-100x the performance and infinite expansion options" Anyone knows what kind of board he means? I have been searching and it seems that the next step from the pi would be something like the Intel NUC, which is quite a lot more than $100 when considering a full, minimum system build. Edit: totally missed the "…

The keyword is used. I bought a pallet of circa 2008 enterprise desktops for ~$30/unit a couple of years ago. Most lacked storage, which killed resale value.

Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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Post by rz2k »

robhu wrote: post #4

Also of note: Tinkerboard has b/g/n 2.4Ghz wifi. Pi 3B+ also has 802.11ac 5Ghz wifi. Tinkerboard has a superior sound chip, supporting 24-bit, 192kHz audio. Pi 3B+ has a totally garbage mono only analog sound (and presumably fine HDMI digital sound).

Would 802.11n be better than 802.11ac with a lot of constraints on the networking bandwidth?

Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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Post by IntelMiner »

BlackLotus89 wrote: post #12
steeve wrote: post #8

There are plenty of boards that are much more powerful than the RPi and have comparable price (ODROID-C2 comes to mind). But the devil is in wether or not they run the mainline Linux kernel. I have several ODROID-C2 that I have replaced with RPis because of the poor hardware support (Amlogic kernel was way late at the time, may still is). Stick to mainline.

I got my odroid c2 running with the rc kernel for a while now. There were some problems at first, but it now runs my home automation and DHCP server without a hitch. I'm running archlinuxarm btw but I will soon try voidlinux as well on it (I tried kodi as well and it kinda could play h256 in software, but I now stick to my raspberry pi as a media center)

The C2 is unfortunately difficult to find much documentation on. Things like kernel configuration etc for mainline releases are sorely lacking

I'm going to try building the latest 4.17 RC later today to see if I can't get it to boot. But I didn't get very far a few months ago

Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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Post by crankylinuxuser »

pishpash wrote: post #66
robhu wrote: post #4

Also of note: Tinkerboard has b/g/n 2.4Ghz wifi. Pi 3B+ also has 802.11ac 5Ghz wifi. Tinkerboard has a superior sound chip, supporting 24-bit, 192kHz audio. Pi 3B+ has a totally garbage mono only analog sound (and presumably fine HDMI digital sound).

RPi is garbage hardware propped up by overcompensated OS support. Sooner or later you regret putting the effort in because it's just mediocre at everything.

Even though you're gray (modded down), there's significant issues with the RPi. Here's some.

1. Boot is still a mystery. It boots from the GPU with "magic registers", then passes to the CPU...?

2. There's no specs available for the GPIOs. 5v tolerant? SPI max speed? Pullups/downs? Nada..

3. DRM baked in. RasPi foundation cheaped out on the MPEG2 decoder, and you need to pay $5 to enable hardware decoding.

4. Needs mystery black box kernel blobs.

5. No power management. No low voltage detection. Hope and pray method

6. Everything is on the USB. Bandwidth ends up sucking. They could have did ethernet on SPI.

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franciscop wrote: post #53

"Once an SBC approaches $100 or so, there are other options (like a used Intel core i5 desktop) which offer 10-100x the performance and infinite expansion options" Anyone knows what kind of board he means? I have been searching and it seems that the next step from the pi would be something like the Intel NUC, which is quite a lot more than $100 when considering a full, minimum system build. Edit: totally missed the "…

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Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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Post by Azrathud »

dtx1 wrote: post #11

I think the main issues with all of these rasbi alternatives is the software. As ... quirky ... as the rasbi is, the software support and optimisation is excellent. There are several speed comparisons on youtube where the rasbi beats a lot of the competition through sheer software optimisation. Honestly, without complete Upstream Kernel support and Open Sourcing of all necessary drivers, none of these Boards is reall…

The Rockchip RK3288 SoC used in this particular board is used in some chromebooks and uses ARMv7 on a 32-bit processor which I think may indicate decent kernel support

Re: The ASUS Tinker Board is a compelling upgrade from a Raspberry Pi 3 B+

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Post by concrete-faucet »

The thing that gets me most of all with the SBCs is that I need to go out and buy another power supply. I know - they aren't really that expensive, but I just don't want to do it. I already have so many 5V USB power supplies that I don't even know what to do with them all. I doubt I am the only one.

I like that the Pi Zero seems to be perfectly stable with any old phone charger I've used, and they seem to range from 800mA to 1mA. I have a couple iPad chargers that go up to 2.1A, so I'd be really happy if I could find a multicore SBC that was good to go with one of those.

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