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> VC from Asia is skyrocketing, threatening to shift power over innovation "Threatening" to whom? Not to Asians. This is an offending us/euro-centric title in a global age...

I mean, in addition to the possible miscommunication over the context of the word, it is an American news source discussing issues from an American perspective. I'd expect the same of any other country's news, really. With that perspective in mind, it's definitely threatening given the rivalry between the U.S. and China. There's both the economic threat towards America's future prosperity as a country for technology,…

>it is an American news source discussing issues from an American perspective

Audience concerned, this is increasingly less so for web-based properties.

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> VC from Asia is skyrocketing, threatening to shift power over innovation "Threatening" to whom? Not to Asians. This is an offending us/euro-centric title in a global age...

> "Threatening" to whom? Not to Asians. As others have said, the parent misinterprets the meaning if 'threatening'. It also has no basis for the opinions of Asians, an incredibly large and diverse group of billions of human beings from Turkey to India to Japan to Kazakhstan to Russia to Indonesia to the Philippines to etc etc. To suggest all these people share the same opinion is absurd.

>As others have said, the parent misinterprets the meaning if 'threatening'.

What meaning exactly would that be?

Dictionary.com: 1. tending or intended to menace: threatening gestures. 2. causing alarm, as by being imminent; ominous; sinister:

Webster: expressing or suggesting a threat of harm, danger, etc. received a threatening message a threatening manner : indicating or suggesting the approach of possible trouble or danger saw threatening clouds on the horizon

Oxford dictionary: 1 Having a hostile or deliberately frightening quality or manner.

It does mean "impeding", but not a neutral impeding -- an "ominous" impeding.

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> VC from Asia is skyrocketing, threatening to shift power over innovation "Threatening" to whom? Not to Asians. This is an offending us/euro-centric title in a global age...

You're assuming the wrong definition of threatening. It's meant as "to announce as intended or possible". That's true whether you're Asian or not.

>It's meant as "to announce as intended or possible".

In a negative way. See my response below, and the lemmas for 3 major dictionaries...

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I remember The Economist doing a piece on this fairly recently[0] that talked exclusively about how China's tech VCs and established corporations (referring to the likes of Alibaba/Tencent) are challenging (and to a certain extent dethroning) Silicon Valley "monopoly" when it comes to investing in innovation/R&D in super critical areas like A.I., for example. One huge advantage Chinese corporations and startups have…

This may sound naive, but how does IP Theft even work? I've worked as a software engineer for over 12 years at over half a dozen companies, with codebases numbering in the millions of lines of code and I have yet to see any software or code I could imagine anyone would want to steal. And if you really needed some code, I'm sure it's available somewhere as open source. And wouldn't the open source code be much more pr…

Also worth noting that China's government policies can create a domestic vacuum for products previously validated outside of China. Google's product and business model can be replicated for the 1.3+ billion Chinese citizens that don't have access.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>slanted views that are approved or promulgated by the reigning regime in a country https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHfgU8oMSo

If you dont want to watch: Parent is posting a video of a bunch of pro-government news reports by Sinclair, owner of many local tv stations in the US, which is known to be particularly right-wing (and, if you ask me, bigoted), much like the current administration. To my understanding, parent's hidden suggestion is that somehow these buffoons are representative of the average American media company.

>which is known to be particularly right-wing

This is a baseless claim with zero evidence to support it

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Everyone is ignoring the fact that China is a massive closed market. Most western services do not care about China. China culture is different and it doesn't seem that the "world" is willing to translate and adapt its services to it. This means a huge opportunity for local ventures.

I'd argue China is actually one of the easiest markets to adapt for, given its size. We're talking 1.3 billion people with the same national language, 92% of which share the same ethnicity (Han). Most Chinese cities are quite consistent in terms of culture and regulations. It's a very homogeneous country with a large middle class Indian or South-East Asia markets are much more difficult to adapt for. You've got a sma…

You need connections in China to do anything as a unfair advantages or you will never succeed.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think we need to be careful about attributing all of the China's success and splurge of VC funding to IP theft, hostile domestic market for foreign players, etc. China is succeeding because it really wants to. With manufacturing in US hollowed out in last couple of decades and China being the new global manufacturing powerhouse, it is not surprising that China is seeking smart (software/cloud/AI/robotics powered) s…

"I think we need to be careful about attributing all of the China's success and splurge of VC funding to IP theft, hostile domestic market for foreign players, etc." All of it? Clearly not. But it would be pretty disingenuous to claim that it's not related. "With manufacturing in US hollowed out in last couple of decades" The US is still the #2 manufacturer in the world. "Why hasn't US achieved the level of digital p…

but in the crucial area of consumer electronics, ie cell phones and computers, the us seems to be far behind asian manufacturing (china & taiwan). Perhaps because of cost, I doubt much is made in the us. A quick search reminded me that the us is still a manufacturing powerhouse, depending on metric probably number 2, but I couldn't find much about specifics on where things are manufactured. It's a complicated world with intel designing cpus, at least to a large part in the us, but making them to some extent in other places.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're assuming the wrong definition of threatening. It's meant as "to announce as intended or possible". That's true whether you're Asian or not.

> It's meant as "to announce as intended or possible". In a negative way. See my response below, and the lemmas for 3 major dictionaries...

Not necessarily. One could say that a rider in a bike race is threatening to overtake another.

That's not necessarily bad. One could say it's used to say it's unexpected, as I assumed for the quote we're discussing.

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