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Re: How to keep someone with you forever

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Personally, I would avoid a bonus system entirely. The latest happiness study I've seen showed that a bonus system is a net loss. The system existing sets expectations, which means you have 3 possibilities: exceed, meet or don't meet expectations. If you meet expectations then nothing changes, the employee got what they expected. If you surpass expectations then the employee gets very happy and works even harder! For…

hey, so I talked to my employee about this, and he echoed the concerns in your footnote, and he says "I can't imagine trying for a random bonus" - and it's really his opinion that matters here.

You could tie the bonuses to profits. Problem is, your employees might game the system by making the company more profitable!

Re: How to keep someone with you forever

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Sounds like a cynical old guy (I'm one of those). But probably, delayed gratification is a sign of maturity not naivete. So how to tell the difference between legitimate delayed reward, and smoke? Trust I guess

Hmm, Actually, I think this kind of thing is more common now than twenty years ago. Not it didn't exist but now the techniques have become more polished.

I'd say this has been around for thousands of years. Cults and religion have these undertones built into their belief systems.

Re: How to keep someone with you forever

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post #90

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hey, so I talked to my employee about this, and he echoed the concerns in your footnote, and he says "I can't imagine trying for a random bonus" - and it's really his opinion that matters here.

You could tie the bonuses to profits. Problem is, your employees might game the system by making the company more profitable!

"Problem is, your employees might game the system by making the company more profitable!"

How does this work? How's this a bad thing? Do you refer to figure manipulations which I believe as CEO you should be aware of?

Re: How to keep someone with you forever

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Seems like it would take a lot more energy to be manipulative than it would be to excel at something.

Manipulative people are highly optimized for it. Like the way your graphics card can do matrix operations without breaking a sweat that would bring your main processor to its knees.

Re: How to keep someone with you forever

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post #92
post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

hey, so I talked to my employee about this, and he echoed the concerns in your footnote, and he says "I can't imagine trying for a random bonus" - and it's really his opinion that matters here.

You could tie the bonuses to profits. Problem is, your employees might game the system by making the company more profitable!

Yup, that's what I'm thinking. I mean, its one employee and me, so if we are doing well, he probably deserves something anyhow.

Re: How to keep someone with you forever

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post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You could tie the bonuses to profits. Problem is, your employees might game the system by making the company more profitable!

"Problem is, your employees might game the system by making the company more profitable!" How does this work? How's this a bad thing? Do you refer to figure manipulations which I believe as CEO you should be aware of?

I thought he might be at first. On reflection I think the statement is ironic (and well expressed).
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