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Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

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Looks like it. Considering that she would have needed to increase her views by 3 orders of magnitude to scratch out $100/month from them. She should have did affiliate marketing & patreon.

> She should have did affiliate marketing & patreon. And, like, ... not shot people.

They're not people if they're nazi fucks.

Censoring fascists.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

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First two comments good for a world-weary chuckle: 1. Xenophobic, hateful comment about Muslims 2. Complaint about her suicide being a waste because "she's hot" Still not sure why news websites bother with comment sections. I guess because it counts as "engagement?"

Interferes with their narrative, adds the overhead of moderation because trolling is usually prevalent. Can still be fun to read sometimes.

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No justification for her actions, but Google does act as a serf master over the entire internet. It can single handedly decide who succeeds, who fails, and there is no recourse. There is no recourse, no appeal. Some 20 year old dude in Menlo Park decides, and your website, your life, your work, your future, is changed forever. Here's our account: https://www.medgadget.com/google

People need to realize that using "free" platforms, means they are beyond your control and your fate is up to their vagaries. I'm against censorship (private censorship which takes political sides especially) but ultimately, unless you're hosting your own content, just enjoy what you get for free while you can and don't bank on it. YT is not there to make _you_ money. They are there to make money for themselves. If y…

Agreed, but the sudden change of the rules - when a lot of people use the platform for their income - is causing a lot of heartache.

I follow a mainstream comedy channel about fitness hosted by a satirical gym guy (brosciencelife) that's fairly mainstream comedy - you'd see darker, less classy comedy in regular TV watching Stephen Colbert discussing Trump philating Vladmir Putin - but the writers, Mike and Gian, are demonotised all the time because there's no granularity in 'controversial'. Meanwhile big channels like Jake Paul were bothering corpses and YouTube didn't care until other creators caused an uproar.

There was a similar case where a new female rapper had a sexy video, and it got demonetised, comparing it to a bunch of more explicit videos from well known rappers which YouTube didn't care about.

It's exactly like Twitter - rules aren't being enforced consistently and it drives people nuts.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

#95

Content platforms have no place policing content. All the algorithms currently used are utterly flawed, and they will always be flawed, both technically and morally. Technically, they'll always have false positives, especially at scale. Morally, they turn the platform owners into political figures inherently, siding with or against certain thoughts and sentiments. The only solution is for platforms to be completely c…

> advertisers should stop allowing online outrage to dictate where they advertise

I agree, but good luck convincing the Tide executives that its okay for their ad to play before a video of a KKK rally.

Furthermore, how do you even create a content platform that doesn't police content and not have it immediately attract scores of users that are only there because they were banned from everywhere else, thus turning your platform into a cesspool that the more mainstream users avoid? (see voat.co)

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

#96

Content platforms have no place policing content. All the algorithms currently used are utterly flawed, and they will always be flawed, both technically and morally. Technically, they'll always have false positives, especially at scale. Morally, they turn the platform owners into political figures inherently, siding with or against certain thoughts and sentiments. The only solution is for platforms to be completely c…

I think Youtube will let you post whatever you want. The filterings affects what money you can make.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

#97
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I must admit my first thought on hearing there was an attack on YouTube was that their recent monetisation changes have put a lot of people out of work, and some of those people must be feeling pretty desperate.

This got too long, but to summarize my point there's a vast amount of content on the internet and those people feeling that someone not finding them via google is a cheat are over-reacting. The world is so big that there are lots of people no one ever hears about, who may be doing interesting stuff. Feeling that people don't find your cool stuff is a complaint you can make against google, facebook, instagram, maybe b…

> those people feeling that someone not finding them via google is a cheat are over-reacting.

> So all these people mad that they don't have lots of viewers

That's not the issue at all. They're mad they HAVE lots of views and their videos are being demonetised, and the rules around demonetisation aren't enforced consistently.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

#98
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I watch a vegan channel that Youtube recommended to me quite often, and Im not even vegan. Based on her page, showing dogs being boiled alive, I think vegan isnt perhaps the best description for that content. A vegan channel is someone showing how to make salads.

Seems to me that modern day veganism is more related to showing provocative videos of animal abuse than it is making salads.

It isn't. Its just the noisy people tend to be the most visible. The vast majority of vegans (including myself) just want to find good food.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

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post #6

No justification for her actions, but Google does act as a serf master over the entire internet. It can single handedly decide who succeeds, who fails, and there is no recourse. There is no recourse, no appeal. Some 20 year old dude in Menlo Park decides, and your website, your life, your work, your future, is changed forever. Here's our account: https://www.medgadget.com/google

People need to realize that using "free" platforms, means they are beyond your control and your fate is up to their vagaries. I'm against censorship (private censorship which takes political sides especially) but ultimately, unless you're hosting your own content, just enjoy what you get for free while you can and don't bank on it. YT is not there to make _you_ money. They are there to make money for themselves. If y…

> People need to realize that using "free" platforms, means they are beyond your control and your fate is up to their vagaries.

People need to realize that there is no such thing as free. Nobody is getting anything for free here, because usage of the service generates analytics data, and it goes into a thick file connected to your account. Those so-called "free" platforms also monopolize the market space, creating less incentives for alternative implementations and competing platforms. Few alternatives are therefore developed, further monopolizing the space, and further cementing the fact that having a choice in the matter isn't in the cards.

Re: Suspect in YouTube Shooting Posted Rants About the Company Online

#100
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It's a pity that Google terminated those accounts - I don't know what scrutiny scares them. As for the lady, she seems to genuinely believe in veganism and fitness. Whatever weird things she did to propagate that seemed to be working (330K views?!!). Why she resorted to gun violence is much awaited.

Here's her last video. One youtube doesn't want you to see evidently, https://www.freedomsafespace.com/m/videos/view/YouTube-Shoot... She seems really upset.

Relevant quote: "People like me are not good for big businesses."
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