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Personal Reason for Hating Facebook (2015)

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Re: Personal Reason for Hating Facebook (2015)

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post #72

A few months ago I won about $200 worth of Amazon gift card codes. Since nothing from Amazon delivers to my country I decided to give them to an American friend of mine. I remember it was late for him when I sent him the codes over Facebook so he only used up one right away and then went to sleep. The next morning, however, the other coupons were all used up. He claims nobody else has access to his FB messages and I…

Did you contacted Amazon to clarify gift-codes usage?

Re: Personal Reason for Hating Facebook (2015)

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[Without Facebook], I have to risk missing out on seminal life events Is missing a high school reunion or the funeral of a long-list friend really "seminal"? Socially awkward, perhaps, but seminal? No, not really. Seminal is getting married, the death of a parent, birth of a child, finishing college. Not getting drunk with a bunch of people you barely know any more.

Totally agreed.

Seminal literally means "of seed." Seminal moments are the moments in life that "seed" your future. 99.99% of the time your life continue on exactly the same if you attend a funeral or you don't and if you attend a class reunion, or you don't.

Re: Personal Reason for Hating Facebook (2015)

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post #75

I remember reading this when it was originally posted years ago and have had time to think about the implications. I am just over 40, so most of my class reunions were organized through Facebook and was amazed at the turn-out possible because of these new social networks. For my mother, there were simply people she no longer knew how to reach — including one of her best friends from childhood. Years went by until Fac…

> The point being, it is just as likely that the writer of this post wasn’t left out any more than he would have been in the past. Although this may apply to OP's problem(s), it's not really the case everywhere. I'll give you two counterexamples: 1) A friend of mine is required to have a facebook account for school (woodworking trade school). They say "you can always create one with a fake name" but that's obviously…

The generations of people who used email and phone primarily are simply getting older, I think. It kinda forces the hand of this alternative.

Of the soccer team, basketball, and parenting groups I'm in; more and more of my peers probably couldn't even define a "calling tree". To them, there's no "alternative" to group coordination other than social media.

It's just easier to reach out on [X Technology] because they already friend-ed each other the first day of meeting. And FB makes that easy with location-based friend recommendations. Who even knows phone numbers anymore? (Emails next...)

Re: Personal Reason for Hating Facebook (2015)

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Closed platforms recreate all previously-solved problems, too, usually requiring you to wait for the gatekeeper to get around to offering a solution.

We have ways to track contacts, organize E-mail threads, view restaurant web sites, etc. and all those tools are uninvented when the data is only visible through Facebook. Even when Facebook graciously permits you to keep using one of your tools (like a web browser), it’s still effectively broken until you log in.

I find a silver lining in this by making it as friction-full as possible for me to view Facebook content. For example, having to unblock domains and log in every time (never saving passwords, etc.). It works: it makes me consider whether or not I really want to spend time viewing whatever silly video/rant/whatever I initially thought was interesting. And of course then I am not sucked into an hour of grazing the rest of the feed.

Re: Personal Reason for Hating Facebook (2015)

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I remember reading this when it was originally posted years ago and have had time to think about the implications. I am just over 40, so most of my class reunions were organized through Facebook and was amazed at the turn-out possible because of these new social networks. For my mother, there were simply people she no longer knew how to reach — including one of her best friends from childhood. Years went by until Fac…

Disagree. I am around your age, and my 10 year reunion had its own domain name and website (still up - not sure who is paying for it or hosting), but my most recent reunion (20 year) was only on Facebook, and since I have never had a Facebook account, I did not find out until about a week beforehand (second-hand from a friend who was not attending). Please be aware, this is a cohort that has mostly been together sinc…

This is the reason i joined Facebook in the first place. I was at graduate school, and had a decent social life with some of the other students. Then a few of them got Facebook, and started using that to organise parties. After i missed a couple, for no reason other than that i wasn't on Facebook and the people organising them were some combination of lazy and scatterbrained, i joined.

I did that in part because i didn't want a repeat of the experience i had with LiveJournal as an undergraduate, where conversation and organisation that had been happening in university newsgroups suddenly evacuated to LJ and left me on my own.

(I don't think these moves were deliberate attempts to avoid me. I'm still good friends with all these people decades later, and they really would have found a way to shake me by now.)

Re: Personal Reason for Hating Facebook (2015)

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post #63

I empathize a lot with this guy. I wanted to share my recent story: I unfollowed every single person and page I'm connected to on Facebook a month and a half ago. Every time I look at a Facebook there's just about no value. My feed is empty. Nevertheless, I'll visit it by habit. It's weird to see how that persists. I am not posting (never really did anyway), and I have no idea what's going on with the people I didn't…

> Every time I look at a Facebook there's just about no value. My feed is empty. Nevertheless, I'll visit it by habit. It's weird to see how that persists.

To eliminate this behavior I use the Crackbook extension: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/crackbook-revival/...

It acts as hinted in this comic: https://xkcd.com/862/

Re: Personal Reason for Hating Facebook (2015)

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post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How were people supposed to find about your domain name and website? How would you reach those who changed emails? How does lack of domain and website cheapens relationships?

There used to be these things called search engines, and we would be able to type the name of the school and the year we graduated, and the site would be one of the first results. The domain was named to indicate it was reunion related. If you couldn't find somebody's email address, you emailed their friend, or called them, and asked, "Do you know how I can get int touch with so and so...?" YOU WOULD NEED TO COMMUNIC…

I’m not sure what you’re trying to argue here. So your value proposition is to make it harder to organize events and find out what’s going on?

Re: Personal Reason for Hating Facebook (2015)

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post #81

Social networks and Facebook in general are a certain aspect of "progress" in society. Yes, it's not perfect, but it's ubiquitous enough that it's considered a primary contact channel that reaches many people at once. Not liking it/hating it/etc. is fine. It's one's own prerogative. But don't complain other people find it useful and you will be left behind because you don't. An exaggerated analogy is like saying "I d…

It's not that the author didn't get to chat about people's lunch on Facebook every morning. It's that the author wasn't invited to things he should have been invited to because to many people, "I invited everyone from my FB list" sounds like they invited everyone they reasonably could. Which is not true. The author explicitly says that he is easy to find. And his school friends should take the extra several minutes to searchengine each person they didn't have on facebook if the event is relatively big and organized. It should be the default response. And the author is rightly frustrated that it isn't, because people are lazy and can unintentionally be careless.

That isn't comparable to not being invited to a spontaneous dinner in 2 hours at 9PM by someone clicking invite all of their contacts list tagged as classmates because you're living in the mountaints a one-hour flight and a two hour hike away without any communication tools around you and you don't even believe in flights.

I don't mean these examples to sound flippant, they're here because I'm trying to underline how there's reasonable compromises between convenience and being a good friend / event organizer, and not being on facebook doesn't make you hard to contact. It definitely didn't in the case of the author.

Re: Personal Reason for Hating Facebook (2015)

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post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There used to be these things called search engines, and we would be able to type the name of the school and the year we graduated, and the site would be one of the first results. The domain was named to indicate it was reunion related. If you couldn't find somebody's email address, you emailed their friend, or called them, and asked, "Do you know how I can get int touch with so and so...?" YOU WOULD NEED TO COMMUNIC…

I’m not sure what you’re trying to argue here. So your value proposition is to make it harder to organize events and find out what’s going on?

I am not happy where we are as a society.

The "easy-ness" diminishes the quality of interaction.

Re: Personal Reason for Hating Facebook (2015)

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post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not sure what you’re trying to argue here. So your value proposition is to make it harder to organize events and find out what’s going on?

I am not happy where we are as a society. The "easy-ness" diminishes the quality of interaction.

Are you the person that went through all that hunting and enjoyed the process or rather other people spent their evening by that work?

Facebook is killing communication and friendship much less then 80 hours a week work schedule combined with long commute and with people changing jobs every 2 years on average. And maybe add to it nearly complete isolation after people have children. If any moment not spend with work or personal project is considered lazy, relationships have to go away.

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