So if you don't have a nice facebook profile, you dont get a job ?
Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn
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Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn
#92No... Just no! Facebook crawls into every portion of our lives. I killed my account because of its insidious feature creep. You don't put up photos of yourself in a swimsuit at work and would sue any workplace that demanded that you show them those pictures. You shouldn't bring your political beliefs into work, and would be uncomfortable if your boss cornered you and demanded to know how you felt about the president…
linked in is basically a separate facebook account with less photos and personal details. just make a new fb account for jobs with less photos and personal details
the social network can only share as much as you give it, its up to you to keep that content personal and offline. i’m not a huge fan of this concept that people give tons of info to these personal dat selling websites and shouldn’t be responsible for it, it’s the companies that shoulder all responsibility. everyone should be well versed in online sharing
Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn
#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
Except in your example, blue collar doesn't appear to use the internet to find jobs or job fairs, even if they have a Facebook account. This reads like a pitch for smart devices for baby boomers. Sure it's a blue ocean, but most retirees don't use smart devices, even though they may have a cell phone.
> most retirees don't use smart devices, even though they may have a cell phone. Really would love a citation for that. My dad is 74, my step mom is retired in her late 60s, all of their church group of about 35 people — every single one has a tablet or smart phone. That’s anecdotal obviously, but this sample is a mix of retired blue and white collar people at a variety of incomes (and ethnic backgrounds.) Retired bo…
Same, my mum is a bit younger (61) and she spends more time on the internet than I do (and I'm a software engineer).
She also puts more hours in on her tablet than I do mine and way more hours on the Chromebook I got her for xmas than I do my laptop.
Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
You know you're privileged when you ask questions like that which have obvious answers for the unprivileged...
Eh, I read it as more of a rhetorical question given the phrasing. why would anyone ever WANT to work for a company that... vs why would anyone ever work for a company that...
That was my intention, if a company requires that sort of info and invasion of privacy, they are going to be a terrible company to work for. Out of necessity some people will need to work for those terrible companies. In an ideal world, those companies should be told outright to "pound sand" or less politely to fuck off.
Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn
#95Genius move by Facebook here in my opinion. They should be doing everything they can to cater to the less tech savvy.
Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn
#96A few months ago I turned off Facebook notifications on my phone. Then I turned off Messenger notifications. I recently deleted the Facebook app. A month ago, the Messenger app moved to page two. Two weeks ago I deleted both from my phone (still have WhatsApp) and force myself to log out when I visit on my laptop. I'm not sure this is the level of disconnection I'll remain at. (Maybe only in election years.) I do thi…
Facebook seems to have adopted the dark pattern of messenger notifications of "1" even after I have deleted all chats. Every time I open the facebook app I am alerted of a new message. I've gone so far as to file a report with facebook, but have not heard back. I assume this behavior is intentional at this point.
Their getting pretty aggressive with their notifications. I'm getting tons of friend x updated their status or other minor minor items they wouldn't send a notification for before, I suppose their trying to get people to reengage
Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn
#97No... Just no! Facebook crawls into every portion of our lives. I killed my account because of its insidious feature creep. You don't put up photos of yourself in a swimsuit at work and would sue any workplace that demanded that you show them those pictures. You shouldn't bring your political beliefs into work, and would be uncomfortable if your boss cornered you and demanded to know how you felt about the president…
I’m pretty sure I remember an article on HN a while back talking about employers demanding applicants’ social media passwords as conditions of employment, so they can go through and look for this stuff. So, in reality the applicants’ personal lives are already in the sphere.
To this day I'm disappointed that no potential employer has asked me for this kind of information during the interview process. I am genuinely curious what kind of emotional response a hiring manager would display when told to go fuck themselves in front of a room of their coworkers.
Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn
#98Having redesigned a hospital's recruitment process to use Facebook advertising for the more "blue collar" type jobs (porters, support workers, estates type jobs as well as nurses) I can really see this working.
We got ridiculous traction in the local area. We were reaching people who had never really thought of a career at their local hospital. But a hospital isn't just doctors.
Often with Facebook we didn't actually directly hit the candidate either. People's mum, uncle, brother or friend would find the advert and pass it on.
Facebook is already successful in recruitment. Only makes sense they really target this market and provide the business tools to do it
Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn
#99This is so wrong on so many levels, I don't even know where to start. I was told for years and years to keep my business life separate from my personal life. It's actually quite scary people are going to fall for it and use this and in the process, hand over a myriad of information that should be protected, solely for the purposes of screening people based on their personal life and their choices therein. Scary, very…
I share your concern.
It may not happen, though. Social networks tend toward natural monopolies. Facebook may have better features and uptime than the next best alternative (or not), but either way, social networks gain most of their utility from all the people on then.
So it's notable that linkedin survived this consolidation. I think this is because people want to keep their business and professional lives distinct. It's actually more than that. There's a comment lower about how Facebook is creepy, and linkedin is pushy. There's a very good reason those are the notable faults identified.
Think of this scenario: a programmer goes to a business meeting with some people form ops and marketing after a conference, and they have lunch or coffee afterwards. Some linkedin invites follow. It might seem a little pushy to some, not to others, but most people (from my observation) wouldn't consider it inappropriate. It's "ok" to be a bit more direct and immediate with business contacts. The same thing with Facebook might seem creepy.
I suspect linkedin or something like it will hang on precisely because it isn't a "social" network.
Re: Facebook rolls out job posts to become the blue-collar LinkedIn
#100No... Just no! Facebook crawls into every portion of our lives. I killed my account because of its insidious feature creep. You don't put up photos of yourself in a swimsuit at work and would sue any workplace that demanded that you show them those pictures. You shouldn't bring your political beliefs into work, and would be uncomfortable if your boss cornered you and demanded to know how you felt about the president…
Facebook is chock full of information that is illegal to ask about in job applications like marital and family status, sexual orientation, age, religion, etc. If this feature saw much adoption it seems like it would only result in greater discrimination. Beyond that, this move is surprising to me because we've been seeing a lot of stories lately about Facebook struggling to get people to post original content after l…
People just need to be smart about making their FB private