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A Company That Tears Cars Apart to Find Out How They're Built

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Re: A Company That Tears Cars Apart to Find Out How They're Built

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Post by function_seven »

rimliu wrote: post #85
toomanybeersies wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can buy window breaking hammers (like they have in public buses) if you're concerned about not being able to get out of your car in a crash.

You can also take a headrest of the front seat and use its prongs to break a window.

Not a bad idea, but are those prongs hard enough? I thought window-breaking tools have a ceramic or tungsten (?) point on them to start the glass fracture.

I'm not going to test it, but I imagine myself desperately bouncing the metal prongs off the inside of a window.

Re: A Company That Tears Cars Apart to Find Out How They're Built

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Post by hop »

Luc wrote: post #9

A fun comparison: Munro on the BMW i3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqiBWfsDTAA Munro on the Tesla Model 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCIo8e12sBM

BMW i3 has the worst designed interior of any car i’ve ever been in and the road noise is insane. I’d take a few annoyances that come with the first run of Tesla’s startup manufacturing over the i3 any damn day.

Re: A Company That Tears Cars Apart to Find Out How They're Built

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Post by bcraven »

rimliu wrote: post #85
toomanybeersies wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can buy window breaking hammers (like they have in public buses) if you're concerned about not being able to get out of your car in a crash.

You can also take a headrest of the front seat and use its prongs to break a window.

https://www.snopes.com/car-headrests-emergency-escape/

They're not designed for that, but some can be used in a pinch. Best not to rely on them!

Re: A Company That Tears Cars Apart to Find Out How They're Built

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Post by omgbananas »

lemonberry wrote: post #67
bahmboo wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, but if you are really safety minded you should have a metal pick/club to break the windows anyway. Can't rely on doors being operational during accident and can't wait for emergency response. Of course I don't have one :]

I keep one in the pocket of my driver's side door and one in the glove box. The ones I have also have a razor for cutting through the seatbelt.

> in the pocket of my driver's side door

After a roll-over, it won't be there and you may not be able to reach the glove box. If you have a center console, I recommend keeping it there (that's where I keep mine).

If you're reading this and you don't have one in your car, buy one now. Here is a link for 2 for $10 (give the other one to your spouse/parent/kid/someone): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CQN0DDC/

Re: A Company That Tears Cars Apart to Find Out How They're Built

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Post by pcnix »

Hasz wrote: post #11

I'm amazed they sell all that info for just $150,000. I figure there's around ~125 major automakers in the world, maybe a dozen or two or so big enough to own their own labs. For each 23,000 page document, we're only taking ~15M, max. For a team of manufacturing experts, this just isn't that much cash. I suspect a majority of their cash flow comes from those training seminars, and the $150K book is just to get you in…

It does seem like they would have a lot of supplementary income from training and workshops.

Re: A Company That Tears Cars Apart to Find Out How They're Built

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Post by 72deluxe »

I did work experience for Rover many years ago and they had a department that took competitor's cars apart to see how they were built and how much they could build the cars for. Some cars were selling for much more than their assembly and parts cost.

I think a lot of manufacturers did this.

Re: A Company That Tears Cars Apart to Find Out How They're Built

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Post by 72deluxe »

hop wrote: post #92
Luc wrote: post #9

A fun comparison: Munro on the BMW i3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqiBWfsDTAA Munro on the Tesla Model 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCIo8e12sBM

BMW i3 has the worst designed interior of any car i’ve ever been in and the road noise is insane. I’d take a few annoyances that come with the first run of Tesla’s startup manufacturing over the i3 any damn day.

Is it that bad? The wheels look like ultra thin elastic band wheels which would transmit much less road noise than normal fat wheels, so is it just a lack of sound proofing in it?

Re: A Company That Tears Cars Apart to Find Out How They're Built

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Post by kuschku »

larrydag wrote: post #60

Ironic that is perfectly okay by manufacturers for someone to disassemble their car yet electronics companies go nuts and sue you. https://spectrum.ieee.org/green-tech/conservation/why-we-mus...

This is why the EU made disassembling software a right for certain use cases, because it's standard practice in all other industries, it is unreasonable to ban it in software.

Re: A Company That Tears Cars Apart to Find Out How They're Built

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Post by OldArrow »

Shivetya wrote: post #45
blinkingled wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's laughably bad of Tesla - the thumb wide gaps in the body, the gluing rubber parts on glass seals because the original one was way out of tolerance, door rattle, one door having two ways to open but not the others - the screen that goes you have activated alternate door opening mechanism or some such thing - all pretty embarrassing. Never mind the insane difficulty to open the hood in an accident which looks li…

I do not understand how there is no manual mechanism for opening the rear doors from the inside, how does that even happen? His comments about the outside door handles were at least prefaced with his own physical limitation but the state of that car is mind boggling. This is on top of the known promised features and oversight with regards to the programming of the display. I did notice on reddit there is a story of a…

At Volvo we had ISO 26262

http://safety.addalot.se/upload/2016/PDF/1-3%20Automotive%20...

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