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Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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Post by brucephillips »

t3rmi wrote: post #89
brucephillips wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This very little evidence that diet affects acne. I'm glad you found a solution, but food probably had little to do with it. Especially "greasy" food, which is one of the items they list on their website. They also say that antibiotic solutions are a "myth", which is patently false.

There are several kinds of acne. The kind that you get when you hit puberty is not related to diet. Adult acne in most cases is however. The thing is food does not directly cause acne. The logic is pretty simple actually. Acne causing bacteria grow in blocked pores and greasy food and dairy makes me super oily . More sebum more blocked pores aaand more acne.

> Adult acne in most cases is however.

Source? Because no, it's not.

There's also no evidence that greasy food increases sebum production.

You're buying into a bunch of snake oil.

Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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Post by RobertRoberts »

spelunker wrote: post #79
cal5k wrote: post #48

I'm always amused/horrified by Hacker News comments on anything health-related. Herein lie a group of incredibly smart individuals sharing anecdotal evidence and folk remedies without a lick of irony.

I think this happens often around here on anything non-tech related. Surprise, being smart doesn't mean you know everything ;-)

But I appreciate the high quality of discussion that intelligence can bring to a topic many of us don't understand.

Who really understands how meltdown and spectre work without asking? Smart people ask questions, and like answers. Add wisdom, and you can appreciate answers that challenge your own biases.

[edit: clarification]

Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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Post by buckthundaz »

DeusExMachina wrote: post #17

I noticed that on myself, high concentrations of sugar or high density carbs (pasta and bread) make it surge. A couple of friends of mine also cured a candida infection by avoiding carbs. So our diet might play a role.

Yes. We as a culture do not move around enough to utilize the sugar we ask our body's to digest ( fast + dirty fuel )

The surplus sugar serves as a substrate to allow candida to thrive, not to mention a myriad of other maladies.

Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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Post by throwaway863601 »

Acne vulgaris is the same as the one adolscents get, right?

How is the claim possibly true? Do they mean something other than what "non-Westerners" means literally? It happens e.g. in the middle-east too and I don't imagine that's an exception. I thought it was a pretty common human phenomenon.

Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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Post by throwaway863601 »

t3rmi wrote: post #67
foxylad wrote: post #45

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Totally anecdotal, but too much chocolate is what makes me erupt. And I prefer dark chocolate, so it might be the chocolate rather than the dairy. Eating a large bar of dark chocolate should differentiate, purely in the interests of science of course.

Its the dairy

I can't speak for other people's cases but in my case it's definitely not the dairy. The only time dairy ever had an effect on me was pre-elementary school when eating too many egg started giving me pimples, so I cut down on that and that fixed it. Never had a problem with it again.

Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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Post by ovao »

lj3 wrote: post #84
RobertRoberts wrote: post #32

1. When I was a kid, just getting a tan cleared up my acne. 2. Changing my diet helped clean up my acne (not eating junk food) 3. When I was a teenager, I got hurt really bad, and my father found me and had to take me to the hospital. I saw massive acne breakout on his face in less than 15 minutes. 4. When I got older and was less stressed about life, my acne went away. When I got a family/career/house and life stres…

When I was a teenager, I saw a dermatologist for my Psoriasis. I somehow wound up with a prescription for tetracycline for my acne. Not only did it not work, but I was constantly sick for a full year after I stopped the medication. There is no moral to this story.

Perhaps the moral of your story could be: a second opinion can be invaluable.

Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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Post by throwaway9980 »

buckthundaz wrote: post #86
throwaway9980 wrote: post #75

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Imagine that you could aggregate all the anecdotes shared on the internet. It would be fascinating to compare the statistical conclusions you could draw against accepted science.

https://nequalsmany.com/ Check it out, this is happening. They are doing many crowdsourced analysis, the most prominent being a 30-day carnivore diet protocol: eat meat, drink water.

I’d be lying if I said I didn’t expect HN to tell me that it’s already being done. I am impressed and amused that it happened this fast and it’s pretty much exactly what I posited. Slow clap.

Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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Post by skosch »

nhylated wrote: post #87
qwerty456127 wrote: post #27

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Here's the discussion and the paper on vitamin D: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15867918 . TL;DR: make sure to always get at least 8000 IU of vitamin D per day (10 times the RDA) if you want to be healthy and have good bones, skin, mood, sleep, immunity and metabolism. I have also heard a rumor that recent studies suggest solid vitamin D pills are better than oil capsules. Would be nice if somebody knowing wha…

I think you missed the link to the discussion in your comment. Would taking 10x the RDA of Vitamin D daily have any side effects? (overdose?)

Max "official" safe daily limit is 4000 IU currently, but the only studies I'm aware of where actual toxicity was reported started at something like 40,000 IU daily for months. Vitamin D is likely pretty safe.

Re: Acne Vulgaris: A Disease of Western Civilization (2002)

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Post by buckthundaz »

mtgx wrote: post #18

Hyperinsulinemia caused by a high-carb diet seems to result in many of our health issues: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiVFtRlObZk

Yes. Great share on your link. Here's another good one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzcOz38FjaU

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