Courts: Violating a Website’s Terms of Service Is Not a Crime

Post by Stranger43 » Thu, Jan 11, 2018, 6:37 AM UTC

justinjlynn wrote: post #6

prepend wrote: post #2

This is positive news. It seems like the more liberal approach taken when protocols were written is being challenged more by young users who grew up under more stable rules that accepted terms of service as very strong. When I was growing up you went by what the protocol allowed. If an http response came back you have access, if it prompted for credentials, then you didn’t have access. The mere idea that a web server…

It's not that young people grew up with stable rules. It's that young people grew up under the influence of industrial information warfare tactics and propaganda. As someone that was prevented from distributing Linux at high school because the administrators thought that any copying was piracy (thanks to the Software Publishers Association and the friendly local Microsoft rep), this conditioning to get kids (and less…

Post by Stranger43 » Thu, Jan 11, 2018, 6:50 AM UTC

DrScump wrote: post #4

Note that the decision says that violations are not criminal acts, but that doesn't mean that license violations can't result in civil lawsuits and encumbent financial damages.

Post by analognoise » Thu, Jan 11, 2018, 6:52 AM UTC

kbos87 wrote: post #65

pwaai wrote: post #40

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> As someone that was prevented from distributing Linux at high school because the administrators thought that any copying was piracy I remember having this discussion with in HS and also at work with people who were convinced pirating a PSX game is same as stealing, while not realizing there is no evidence that suggests a pirated copy means a lost sale (people can't afford it in places like Brasil where they still p…

A pirated copy doesn’t need to equate to a lost sale in order for it to be stealing. You took something of value that was created or owned by someone else. Whether it’s a physical or nonphysical good is completely beside the point.

Post by gsich » Thu, Jan 11, 2018, 7:05 AM UTC

cosmie wrote: post #51

Sniffnoy wrote: post #29

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Is this system of "API keys" why Pidgin doesn't handle all these new IM protocols, and why there's no other good old-fashioned multi-protocol clients for them (that I'm aware of)?

Franz[1] is the closest thing I’ve found to a client around newer IM protocols. [1] https://meetfranz.com/

Post by tedunangst » Thu, Jan 11, 2018, 7:20 AM UTC

kaspiCZ wrote: post #93

untog wrote: post #82

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Piracy isn't stealing... and besides, no one can afford the games anyway... besides, you should see what the industry does to the artists in the first place... The gentleman doth protest too much?

Let's try to flip the perspectives. Let's say you created a game. Let's pretend you want to make money off of it, because you put quite some time into it. Time you could have used to make money by other means. How would you go about it?