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GIMPS Project Discovers Largest Known Prime Number

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Re: GIMPS Project Discovers Largest Known Prime Number

#91
post #63

tl;dr The 50th Mersenne prime was just found by a volunteer of the GIMPS (Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search) project. It is 2^77,232,917-1 and has 23,249,425 digits. Mersenne primes are extremely rare and are always of the form 2^p-1 for some positive integer p. The first four Mersenne primes are 3, 7, 31, and 127.

Also, p is prime.

Just to clarify, in this case p = 77,232,917 is prime, but for Mersenne primes in general p is just a positive integer.

Re: GIMPS Project Discovers Largest Known Prime Number

#92
post #88

Curious: can bitcoin mining rigs be modified for BOINC projects (GIMPS, Seti@Home, etc.)? If yes, than I might invest in some rigs and modify them to run BOINC. Yes, I'm weird: I prefer to do computation for BOINC than for bitcoin. :-)

nowadays bitcoin mining rigs use ASICs that are optimized for the task, so I don't think that would be a good idea. on a general purpose system you can use GPUs and BOINC with SETI, not sure about GIMPS.

I see. Thanks.

I do have some PC systems but they are shared among family members, making it difficult to run BOINC as a background task without interfering with their work.

I'll look at low-cost systems, like the Raspberry Pi, to see if I can use them as dedicated BOINC boxes instead.

Re: GIMPS Project Discovers Largest Known Prime Number

#93
post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> so I didn't know this, but got curious about how many known prime there are This isn't the exact question you're asking, but we actually know the distribution of prime numbers, which allows us to calculate the (approximate) number of primes that are less than or equal to an arbitrary value. Since the largest prime discovered is 2^(277,232,917-1), that means that the number of primes less than or equal to that numbe…

Nit: the largest prime discovered is 2^(277,232,917)-1 not 2^(277,232,917-1)

If you read the article, it's actually:

(2^77,232,917)-1

Re: GIMPS Project Discovers Largest Known Prime Number

#94
post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also, p is prime.

Just to clarify, in this case p = 77,232,917 is prime, but for Mersenne primes in general p is just a positive integer.

Not quite. If p isn't prime then 2^p - 1 isn't prime.

Re: GIMPS Project Discovers Largest Known Prime Number

#95
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RSA encryption keys uses the product of two large primes, where each prime is many digits long. So many new primes are "discovered" every day.

Interestingly, those primes' primality is normally proven statistically rather than deductively. This is not really a practical issue for people using RSA, but could be a philosophical issue for someone interested in the question of how many different numbers' primality has been proven by humanity.

I don't know to what confidence ssh-keygen and the like test their candidates, but it's not hard to make the probability for composite smaller than the probability that the computer doing a proper primality test is hit by an asteroid while doing the computation.

Re: GIMPS Project Discovers Largest Known Prime Number

#96
post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nit: the largest prime discovered is 2^(277,232,917)-1 not 2^(277,232,917-1)

If you read the article, it's actually: (2^77,232,917)-1

Not sure if this was a serious comment, but if it was: due to operator precedence in mathematics, the expressions (2^77,232,917)-1, 2^(77,232,917)-1, and 2^77,232,917-1 are identically evaluated, with the parentheses only used to aid the human eye. This in contrast to 2^(77,232,917-1), which is 2^77,232,916 and is a very different number indeed.

Re: GIMPS Project Discovers Largest Known Prime Number

#97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you read the article, it's actually: (2^77,232,917)-1

Not sure if this was a serious comment, but if it was: due to operator precedence in mathematics, the expressions (2^77,232,917)-1, 2^(77,232,917)-1, and 2^77,232,917-1 are identically evaluated, with the parentheses only used to aid the human eye. This in contrast to 2^(77,232,917-1), which is 2^77,232,916 and is a very different number indeed.

The parens are a red herring. GP is commenting on the previous poster using 277 instead of 77 (i.e. typo).

Re: GIMPS Project Discovers Largest Known Prime Number

#98
post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nit: the largest prime discovered is 2^(277,232,917)-1 not 2^(277,232,917-1)

If you read the article, it's actually: (2^77,232,917)-1

Very well then; let us rather write them with proper superscripts (and I’ll use THIN SPACE as a thousands and prettiness separator too because I can):

2 ⁷⁷ ²³² ⁹¹⁷ − 1

not

2 ⁷⁷ ²³² ⁹¹⁷ ⁻ ¹

There, no more ambiguity.

(Now I’m waiting for someone to jump on me to correct anything subtle.)

[Ah, I see, the parentheses were indeed a red herring. Ah well; let the superscripts remain.]

Re: GIMPS Project Discovers Largest Known Prime Number

#99
post #61

TIL I work at the same company as the discoverer of the 50th known Mersenne Prime. I know at least one sysadmin who used GIMPS as a burn-in program for new servers.....

It’s common for stress-testing overclocking, too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime95#Use_for_stress_testing

Re: GIMPS Project Discovers Largest Known Prime Number

#100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you read the article, it's actually: (2^77,232,917)-1

Not sure if this was a serious comment, but if it was: due to operator precedence in mathematics, the expressions (2^77,232,917)-1, 2^(77,232,917)-1, and 2^77,232,917-1 are identically evaluated, with the parentheses only used to aid the human eye. This in contrast to 2^(77,232,917-1), which is 2^77,232,916 and is a very different number indeed.

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