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How a PR Agency Stole Our Kickstarter Money

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Re: How a PR Agency Stole Our Kickstarter Money

#91

I can imagine one scenario where Woodshed was in dire financial straits and calculated that the brand damage resulting from keeping the game developer's money was worth it.

I can imagine another scenario where they secretly converted all the money to Bitcoin thinking they could skim a profit from the rising prices and then pay back the client in USD, but now Bitcoin isn't liquid enough and they can't get their money out so they are stuck.

Re: How a PR Agency Stole Our Kickstarter Money

#92
post #6

I don't know why but it kind of rubs me the wrong way PR agencies for Kickstarter/crowd-funding even exist. I'd rather back something that had someone passionate with a shitty cell phone video over the generic sterile PR videos that everything seems to have now. https://twitter.com/Woodshedagency The hashtags on their twitter description almost seem like satire.

@Woodshedagency just hid all their tweets. This isn't looking good.

And then un-hid them...! For a PR agency they seem a bit unclear on the concept of optics and, indeed, the management of relationships with the public.

> We're currently turning on all of our social media, sites, and lines of communication. They will remain on. Clearly turning them off was a big mistake. More on that in a bit. Jeff and I plan on staying online all night to answer and address any and all questions [0]

0. https://twitter.com/Woodshedagency/status/943632233088405505

Re: How a PR Agency Stole Our Kickstarter Money

#93
post #68

This is well into "criminal complaint" territory.

More lucrative to go civil; get default treble fraud damages with a 20% withholding on all their future income that survives bankruptcy because of the fraud. But then IANAL.

but going civil requires your own lawyers, while a criminal fraud case is initiated by the state prosecutor. if you can't afford a lawyer...

Re: How a PR Agency Stole Our Kickstarter Money

#97
post #95

Woodshed replied: https://medium.com/@jeff_52578/how-a-failed-kickstarter-camp...

"The author deleted this Medium story"

EDIT: i made a copy: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1s3ymjWo7lQJxsrf0uDEurJZ3FB...

original post:

The summary as stated (and as i understood it) is as follows. I take no sides here, just trying to summarize the post since i managed to see it before it went bye-bye

> campaign did not succeed as promised, owners allegedly propped it up with own money from fraudulent credit cards that never cleared

> kickstarter paid woodshed $16K (the amount that did clear)

> depending on fee counting, woodshed owed 10% of that, plus 4K they spent on promoting the game

> their accountant told them that they are on hook if game isnt delivered since they have the money so they waited till game delivered

> their accountant told them they are on hook for taxes since they are in USA and got the money and they don’t know what to do now

> "words we said. allegations made. reputations ruined. it is in the hands of lawyers now"

Re: How a PR Agency Stole Our Kickstarter Money

#99
post #16

I don't buy this story. The entire post is one sided - am I really supposed to believe some pr agency straight up stole your money? And now 7 months later you are "doing what we can on a legal front"? This is a perfect example of why we should all follow the "innocent until proven guilty" idea. There is no proof, no chance for the agency to refute claims, etc. Convenient that they are also asking for more financing.

It looks from the other side of the story (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1s3ymjWo7lQJxsrf0uDEurJZ3FBe...) you were totally right and really do not deserve those downvotes. But the mob has spoken.
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