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Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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> Mozilla's gotta make money somehow They're a nonprofit; they're not allowed to just "make money". And, they already take donations.

This is a very common misconception about non-profits that is not true. The details depend on local laws, but generally a non-profit only means that the owner of the non-profit can't take the all of the actual profit (money) directly out of the non-profit via dividends. Things like non-profits must be focused public good or they can't pay high (or any) salaries are urban legends that have no basis in reality.

The key word is "just".

That's not a misconception I share. I understand Mozilla can and should make money to further its mission.

But unlike a for-profit, making money isn't the mission of Mozilla. So needing to make money can't be used as a justification for doing naughty things against the public good.

Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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> No changes will be made to Firefox unless you have opted in to this Alternate Reality Game. That can't possibly be true. I had it installed, and I'm on my work machine using Firefox Developer Edition. I didn't opt in to any ARG.

It's installed, but apparently doesn't do anything if you don't have "studies" enabled.

Installing extensions is not "No changes will be made to Firefox".

Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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Adds are annoying yes, but they are only bad for your privacy if they track and profile you. Adds allow for free stuff and they can be done the right way. Granted this is becoming more and more rare so I understand your standard association of adds with distrust. The adds you refer to are non tracking (please tell me if I'm wrong though) and will slowly be replaced by sites you visit (often).

Ads abuse the user's time, attention, and privacy. Minus the tracking, that's still two factors of abuse rather than three.

How do they abuse your privacy without tracking? Of course if they didn't abuse your time and attention they wouldn't make sense. But someone has to be paying Firefox's development, and it is not you. I'll take that last part back if you contribute to Mozilla. Hey, maybe it's an idea for a donation: make a 5$ Firefox without adds. I'd pay. To bad part goes to Google that way.

Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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Going through your browser settings really is quite the hoop.

Yeah, its so intuitive for the average person to type: about:config in address bar and scroll through hundreds of oddly named parameters to turn off spyware. Comments like yours are illustrative of a certain mindset. When you encounter the complexity of domains you are not intimately familiar with (court system, law, finance, etc), and those complexities are designed specifically to make it hard for you to protect yo…

You're being hyperbolic, you don't need to go into about:config.

It's right in the main browser settings, under the Privacy and Security section where one would expect settings like this to be

Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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Apparently it's getting loaded anyway for some people that say they had "Studies" disabled and/or "Studies" itself became re-enabled. The whole idea of slipping paid advertorial content into what are billed as "research" kind of gives the lie to this whole thing and is why I never turn these on in any product. Which is also why it's now "opt-out" by default, and why it will eventually not be an option at all. It's al…

You don't just need "Studies" enabled, you also need to explicitly opt-in to each specific study on an individual basis: > Participation in an individual study is opt-in Source: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Shield/Shield_Studies If that didn't happen in this case, then I suspect it's probably a bug.

> you also need to explicitly opt-in

Wrong, as far as I see: Looking in my about:config, I see

    app.shield.optoutstudies.enabled=true
    browser.onboarding.shieldstudy.enabled=true
enabled by default. The settings that I've changed from the default are shown in bold. These aren't bold. Those are the defaults. Everybody can check.

That means that the user must actively take steps to disable them, if he knows that they exist and where he can disable them.

Every time the user creates a new profile, and most probably also when he "refreshes" an old one, he has by default the studies allowed.

It's even worse in other aspects: through the UI the "Allow Firefox to install and run studies" can be unchecked but it doesn't change the value of "experiments.enabled" to false in about:config.

Apparently the "experiments" allow Mozilla to install the "experimental" extensions to any user, without him knowing. And these extensions are invisible in the GUI! Even if the user goes to the about:config and sets extensions.ui.experiment.hidden to false, it will be automatically set to true again.

Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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Mozilla Firefox installer is signed by a code-signing certificate. But at the very end it means nearly nothing: if the developer cannot be trusted, no amounts of certificates, green bars, smart screens, stores and walled gardens can fix that.

That's a very important point to grasp, as I hear a lot of voices nowadays claiming that the modern security model (read walled gardens of all kinds) is the universal panacea.

Just the opposite, it brings a false sense of security making you more vulnerable. It also tends to inhibit a healthy and free market competition when a lot of potentially good software suppliers are gated off from the walled gardens from the start.

Re: Unknown Mozilla dev addon "Looking Glass 1.0.3" on browser

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https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/lookingglass The Mr. Robot series centers around the theme of online privacy and security. One of the 10 guiding principles of Mozilla's mission is that individuals' security and privacy on the internet are fundamental and must not be treated as optional. The more people know about what information they are sharing online, the more they can protect their privacy. ...which you've d…

If you clicked on the link about shield studies you'd see it says they're opt in, did you not getting prompted about it?

> If you clicked on the link about shield studies you'd see it says they're opt in, did you not getting prompted about it?

No, I had Firefox test pilot with `Video Min` addon, I was not prompted about he `Looking Glass` I removed all addons from Mozilla and their test pilot yesterday. There is only one thing that keeps me away from moving to Brave browser https://github.com/brave/browser-laptop/issues/3101

I hope they fix it soon so I can drop Firefox and their "mission". This is second time my Firefox got infected by Mozilla and their addons. A month ago my PC at work got infected with "Firefox Pioneer" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15648179

Firefox Pioneer is literally a spy and tracking addon:

>Pioneer is an opt-in program that allows collection of richer data from Firefox.

I did not install it.

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