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When somebody loses weight, where does the fat go?

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Re: When somebody loses weight, where does the fat go?

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> Most people believed that fat is converted to energy or heat, which violates the law of conservation of mass. We suspect this misconception is caused by the “energy in/energy out” mantra...

I would not call it a misconception but simplification. Otherwise it is a very surprising article.

Re: When somebody loses weight, where does the fat go?

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From the paper "Replacing one hour of rest with exercise that raises the metabolic rate to seven times that of resting by, for example, jogging, removes an additional 39 g of carbon from the body, raising the total by about 20% to 240 g. For comparison, a single 100 g muffin represents about 20% of an average person’s total daily energy requirement. Physical activity as a weight loss strategy is, therefore, easily fo…

The question is whether the body spends any energy outside of that hour after exercising (e.g. by growing muscle, etc.) than it would otherwise. That would make exercise more effective when considering longer periods of time.

It helps in other non-measurable ways too. If you know you're going to go for a run in 2-3 hours, you're going to not eat an entire pizza for lunch, for example.

Re: When somebody loses weight, where does the fat go?

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For anyone coming straight to the comments looking for an answer to the question: it turns into CO2 (and a bit of water) and you breathe it out. When you realize that you have to breathe out all the weight you lose, I think it gives you a bigger appreciation for how difficult weight loss can be.

2 pounds a day. That's how much CO2 you breath out, and the hard limit for weight loss. You can lose more than that, (see boxers before a weigh-in), but that's all water loss, and is temporary. And, with a strong likelihood of death.

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Re: When somebody loses weight, where does the fat go?

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For anyone coming straight to the comments looking for an answer to the question: it turns into CO2 (and a bit of water) and you breathe it out. When you realize that you have to breathe out all the weight you lose, I think it gives you a bigger appreciation for how difficult weight loss can be.

I've lost 16kg this year, which I attribute to 3 things:

1. being fairly strict with calorie intake - though I have gone over my limit a whole bunch of times

2. upping my running game - 80km+ most months

3. being diagnosed asthmatic (after 40 years of merely "you've got shitty lungs, sorry") and prescribed a morning+night inhaler

Dieting isn't new to me, I've been a fat bastard all my adult life. Previous attempts at losing weight have involved doing (1)+(2) and each time I lost weight and got faster. But with the diagnosis at the start of this year, and despite a higher calorie allowance, I've smashed my PBs at various distances - multiple times - and lost more weight (NB. because I started higher; I'm not at a record low, yet). So it seems pretty intuitive to me that "I'm better at breathing" has played a hell of a part.

Re: When somebody loses weight, where does the fat go?

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Observations from Figure 1, "Responses of a sample of doctors, dieticians, and personal trainers to the question “When somebody loses weight, where does it go?”" 0 doctors were willing to admit they didn't know. 0 dieticians thought sweat was involved. Those results seem unsurprising. Only dieticians correctly answered CO2.

I'm pretty aghast at the ignorance of the survey participants and how they failed to admit it.

From doctors, this should not happen.

Re: When somebody loses weight, where does the fat go?

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Exercise makes more sense! Breathing hard == losing weight!

It's easier to eat less calories than exercise.

It's easier to eat less caloric dense foods than both.

I love stuffing myself full of food, and I suspect others enjoy this too. Knock yourself out with as many carrots as you can have. Eat a full pound or two of cauliflower.

Re: When somebody loses weight, where does the fat go?

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For anyone coming straight to the comments looking for an answer to the question: it turns into CO2 (and a bit of water) and you breathe it out. When you realize that you have to breathe out all the weight you lose, I think it gives you a bigger appreciation for how difficult weight loss can be.

So does that mean that sitting on the couch is more environmentally friendly than exercising?

No, but turning the thermostat down a bit can be (though worse in summer). You can use up a lot of energy just keeping warm.

Re: When somebody loses weight, where does the fat go?

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Have you tried it? I did, it's easier only for some time. After you lose about 6-7% of your body weight it's very hard to eat less, your whole behaviour changes.

I tried it - I lost nearly 25% my weight (down from 132 kg to 101 kg) over this year by eating less and walking on foot a lot more. Eating less is certainly having a lesser effect than it did at first, but I'm still losing weight bit by bit.

Walking is very underrated as exercise. People think they have to go to the gym or run a marathon for it to count. In fact, if you're overweight, running could shoot your HR way up (+190). Try walking.

Re: When somebody loses weight, where does the fat go?

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I thought ants were what made short work of the wood. Something about formic acid? Do you know more - I need to reset my ignorance.

No sorry. Maybe it was both? The documentary just told about the fungi.

okay - thanks. Years ago someone told me a story of the ants saving us from a wood death, and I never checked it out, but recounted it just the other day. Fungi seems more reasonable on reflection.

Re: When somebody loses weight, where does the fat go?

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Have you tried it? I did, it's easier only for some time. After you lose about 6-7% of your body weight it's very hard to eat less, your whole behaviour changes.

Is there statistics for this? I recently dropped 20% of my bodyweight, but didn't find that my behaviour changed at all. If anything as the routines set in it became easier.

Statistics no, but I heard this many times, not believed it and then confirmed this with my body.
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