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Fixing the MacBook Pro

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Re: Fixing the MacBook Pro

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Post by StringyBob »

saltcod wrote: post #2

Surprises me that a 2015 MBP is still passable for him cpu-wise. I briefly replaced my 2014 MBP with a 2017 iMac, citing the 16GB ram ceiling as my primary issue. I ordered the iMac from Apple with 8GB of ram and ordered an additional 16GB from OWC b/c it was way cheaper. The iMac arrived over two weeks before the OWC ram arrived, so I had 2 weeks using the 8GB iMac in it's ram-starved state. In short: I never once n…

Interesting then that a mid 2015 mbp has similar cpu benchmark scores to an iPhone 8...

https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/4929790 https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/4929982

Re: Fixing the MacBook Pro

#93

Post by lucasverra »

Chernobog wrote: post #14
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #3

Got a 2015 Macbook Pro. As of today, the E, R, and T keys have all stopped working. Apple wants $500 for a logic board replacement. It was fine when it was just the R key. Sort of. I set up bash scripts to copy-paste "r" to my clipboard, and just pressed command-V instead of "r". But then the T key went out. The other day, I was using my MacBook with an external keyboard sitting on top, and then the whole thing shut…

It is sad to hear your story, and I hope you have great luck in finding a good solution that does not empty your wallet. I really wish that the 5 year "reklamasjon" (roughly translated to claims) period we have in Norway for things that are supposed to last more than two years, caught on globally. It can sort of be explained as a warranty mandated by law, which means we can usually ignore the usual warranties from th…

Can I benefit from it if im an EU citizen buying @ Norway ?

Re: Fixing the MacBook Pro

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Post by SyneRyder »

ricardobeat wrote: post #44
iscoelho wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I enjoy butterfly switches so much that I'd be genuinely upset if Apple gave in and changed back.

You’ve also been lucky. Everyone is getting sticky and dead keys on these. I had “B” stick and double press, eventually it stopped after a few more weeks of use, but you can feel a key here and there being a little stubborn. It’s way more fragile than older keyboards.

Also, it's happening so often to customers that there is a 3 week waiting period for keyboard replacements at Apple Stores, and sometimes the replacement keyboards are breaking even before Apple can install them:

https://twitter.com/stuartkhall/status/924889375011258369

https://twitter.com/stuartkhall/status/929578083123736578

Re: Fixing the MacBook Pro

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Post by stevewillows »

I'm on a late 2013 15" MBP and I am dreading the day when I need to replace this joy of a machine.

I like the idea of the touch bar, but I don't actually want it for keys. I think it'd be handy as a ticker for notifications, macros, etc, but not common keys.

Having a bar for macros / shortcut keys for Illustrator (etc) would be extremely useful for designers, and I don't doubt that there are hundreds of other applications for other industries. Sort of like those LED keyboards that were kicking around a few years back.

The requirement for dongles is just silly. I actually purchased this late-2013 MBP refurbished specifically because I didn't like the new GPU and read some other complaints about the current systems of the day. Having an SD slot, HDMI, 2x USB, etc is excellent and can easily handle most of my needs when I'm on-the-go. At home I have my laptop on a VESA mounted tray with a second monitor.

All in all, there isn't a lot that Apple needs to improve with the MBP -- they just need to dial it back a few generations and retool the touchbar so its not mandatory.

Lastly, bring back magsafe! Maybe there are some people who hated it, but I've never had any issues with it. There have been a few times where the cable has been kicked (often at a coffee shop by someone else.) Its a fantastic design, even if the magnets could be the tiniest bit stronger.

quick edit: I hope things don't go the way of using the camera for quick unlocking. I always keep my cameras covered, even if makes me look like I'm paranoid. Using touch ID on the touch bar would definitely be ideal.

Re: Fixing the MacBook Pro

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Post by chrisbennet »

chrisbennet wrote: post #22

I think they should show some courage and make a Pro quality laptop again - one that doesn’t require dongles. Make it thicker, maybe even make it black. Developers don’t want the thinnest , we want the best . It’s probably never gonna happen because they are a mobile device company now and that is where the money is.

The reason I mention making it thicker was because I was under the impression that “too thin” was the reason the number and size of ports was compromised. It doesn’t need to be a monster, the previous generation MBP wasn’t.

Re: Fixing the MacBook Pro

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Post by bluedino »

ihenriksen wrote: post #92

According to Geekbench there is only about a 50% performance gain with Intel i7 CPUs since MacBook Pro Retinas from 2012, am I the only one that is surprised about this - Moore's Law and all? https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/search?q=macbook+pro

The last year was a decent jump. 4700 vs 4100 single core geekbench

Re: Fixing the MacBook Pro

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Post by bluedino »

saltcod wrote: post #2

Surprises me that a 2015 MBP is still passable for him cpu-wise. I briefly replaced my 2014 MBP with a 2017 iMac, citing the 16GB ram ceiling as my primary issue. I ordered the iMac from Apple with 8GB of ram and ordered an additional 16GB from OWC b/c it was way cheaper. The iMac arrived over two weeks before the OWC ram arrived, so I had 2 weeks using the 8GB iMac in it's ram-starved state. In short: I never once n…

Did the iMac have an SSD?

Re: Fixing the MacBook Pro

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Post by csomar »

I disagree with a couple points here.

= More ports

No. This should be a strict no. Not including Flash on the iPhone has pushed the community to adapt. If Apple wasn't blunt, we'll be still stack with these "plugins". Not that I hate flash but it isn't the right way to do it even if it is more performant right now.

There is no reason to have multiple different confusing ports. And different kind of cables. Let's stop this and have the whole industry work on a single type of Port.

= Back away from the Touch Bar

That's highly subjective. Especially that you can opt-out by choosing the model without the Touch Bar.

I personally like the Touch bar.

Re: Fixing the MacBook Pro

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Post by csomar »

stevewillows wrote: post #95

I'm on a late 2013 15" MBP and I am dreading the day when I need to replace this joy of a machine. I like the idea of the touch bar, but I don't actually want it for keys. I think it'd be handy as a ticker for notifications, macros, etc, but not common keys. Having a bar for macros / shortcut keys for Illustrator (etc) would be extremely useful for designers, and I don't doubt that there are hundreds of other applica…

The touch bar is optional. In my opinion, it is great. The only issue is that it consumes more of your battery.

I agree that the new machine is lacking in terms of Battery and Memory (only 16GB!). I'm waiting for the next release.

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