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Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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I'm getting sick of this stuff. As a user of Uber (or Equifax), would I have any case if I tried to sue them for mishandling private data (I live in Massachusetts)? http://www.mass.gov/ago/doing-business-in-massachusetts/priv...

Maybe if you can organize a class lawsuit.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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I disagree. One needs to be consistent in their actions, otherwise, what's the point? Two wrongs don't make a right, after all. EDIT: Er, I agree that hypocrisy shouldn't stop you from doing the right thing.

Consistency is absolutely impossible, as you already alluded to. It’s not a bad move to assess the current position, accept it for what it is, and improve it bit by bit. Pick your battles. Two wrongs don’t make a right when you try to sum them, I.e. combine them. My point is: don’t compare them at all. Don’t change the subject. Uber is one, other things are another. Being a hypocrite doesn’t make you wrong, it just m…

My overall point is that people don't actually care. It's just virtue signaling. If people cared they'd have consistency in their actions. For example, you probably are very consistent in the fact that you probably will never cause physical harm to someone.

Consistency isn't impossible at all. People are already very consistent in doing what simply is convenient for them. In the case of Uber vs. Lyft, if you live in an area where they're priced similarly and are of similar service it's easy to switch to one or the other under the guise of trying to do the right thing, or whatever.

Not using Uber hardly requires any effort. What, ten seconds to uninstall an app and install the alternative one?

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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When I deactivated my account it was a huge pain, I had to reply to 2 emails, and in the end it took 5 days to complete. That alone annoyed me enough to never go back.

The current deletion process is smooth and can be completed in-app.

From the experience of two of my friends in the past month, they had that in-app system "error" and had to do the same emails and 5-day level delay.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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>Just pay the toll especially when the cost of doing the right thing is higher. i mean look at HSBC - laundered trillions of dollars of mega-organized-crime money. for a decade. 400m dollar fine probably isnt even .01% of what they made off that endeavor

And they say we need less regulation of corporate behavior.

Less regulation would be better than the system we have now - where large and connected corporations can buy get out of jail free cards.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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When I deactivated my account it was a huge pain, I had to reply to 2 emails, and in the end it took 5 days to complete. That alone annoyed me enough to never go back.

The current deletion process is smooth and can be completed in-app.

Why bother? I just deleted the app and forgot about it. Is there something I should know?

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Never underestimate the power of marketing. My mother for instance would use Uber over any ride-sharing system due to its insane exposure and the fact that these stories remain relatively unheard of in comparison.

It's already way more common to use "Uber" as a verb, or even a noun, that doesn't necessarily even mean Uber the company itself. People have asked me before if I'm about "to uber" or "take an uber" someplace and they say it in an obvious way that implies "any ridesharing company" (or lyft in my case since most people know I only lyft nowadays). Uber just as a word for ride-sharing has become ingrained and won't be e…

In contract, saying to "get a lyft" can be confusing, if not meaningless.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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This is so gob-smackingly uncommon I started asking "do you require 2fa for your github accounts" as part of my interview questions when I was looking for jobs (i.e. I'd ask my interviewers). I don't know how to feel knowing that there is even one software-focused company out there that doesn't enforce 2fa on its github accounts. Like... how?! Why?!

2fa is just another hurdle. Good to have, but by no means a silver bullet. Just one of the many ways to bypass it in this case: hack a developer machine and look at the local checkout.

I really don't think using 2FA and the direct hacking of an individual developer's machine are all that comparable here.

Who cares about access to individual dev's machines if the credentials to access code on github are obtained - 2FA at least offers some degree of protection in this scenario. The scope for attack is extremely different.

Re: Uber Paid Hackers to Delete Stolen Data on 57M People

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Don’t let hypocrisy stop you from doing the right thing. Sometimes you need to climb one tree to cut down another.[1] That’s ok. [1] tbh I don’t think you do, but I like the analogy so I’m keeping it.

I disagree. One needs to be consistent in their actions, otherwise, what's the point? Two wrongs don't make a right, after all. EDIT: Er, I agree that hypocrisy shouldn't stop you from doing the right thing.

It’s just not possible to be perfectly consistent in all your actions, we’re all hypocrites somewhere if you consider all down to the root. We probably all hate forced child labor, yet we all own smartphones, all of them most likely built with resources mined by children under grueling conditions. (This text Is typed on one) Still, don’t let that stop from doing the right thing once in a while. If we all did the right thing most of the time, we’d still be hypocrites, but the world would probably be a better place.
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