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Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by WalterBright »

hkmurakami wrote: post #41
nodesocket wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll give a very personal account. I was in the past harassed on Twitter. I received death threats and users were giving out my phone number and address to other Twitter users via DM. I filed an official complaint, and Twitter's response was this is not harassment, we won't do anything. I am pretty sure because of my political views the Twitter support representative decided they didn't like me. The hypocrisy, bias,…

There was a series of articles a few years ago about closet GOP supporters in the tech industry fearing being "outed" for the damage it would cause to their careers. In your experience do you feel that this concern is justified? (I think there was at least one startup CEO who declared that if he found out that anyone at his company had voted for Trump, that he would fire him/her)

We still have a secret ballot in this country, and this is why.

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by jondubois »

mankash666 wrote: post #2

This article shines light on the power bestowed upon Twitter employees. They can randomly deactivate one's account, and unless you're the president, you might not have any recourse. Particularly worrisome is the general left leaning political and social affiliation of such employees. We are an era of systemic censorship of right leaning speech by popular internet platforms. I'm personally center left, but in no way d…

Yeah I'm sick of reading crap about employees being made to feel “safe“. It's patronizing.

Also, the employees at company X make +$100K per year, they're totally owning the game of capitalism and therefore life in general - They're damn safe and if they don't feel safe then they should see a shrink.

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by chiaro »

rebuilder wrote: post #19
irulebush wrote: post #15

I frequently come across tweets by neo-nazis promoting their hateful ideas. We can't let this go on in the name of free speech.

We might have to. Fringe groups like neo-nazis thrive on suppression. Censoring them may serve to validate their narrative of fighting for a cause despite oppression. It also shows them people are taking them seriously.

It validates that narrative, but that must be weighed against how access to platforms allows them to influence the dominant narrative, especially where kids etc are concerned.

The YouTube recommendation engine is a far bigger culprit. It doesn't take many clicks to go from fairly innocuous, but kid-popular stuff like H3H3 or PewDiePie to one anti-sjw or cultural war video and then the recommendation engine will hand hold them right down the right wing extremism tunnel (or continually show up until they do)

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by sdfkljs »

nodesocket wrote: post #36
mankash666 wrote: post #2

This article shines light on the power bestowed upon Twitter employees. They can randomly deactivate one's account, and unless you're the president, you might not have any recourse. Particularly worrisome is the general left leaning political and social affiliation of such employees. We are an era of systemic censorship of right leaning speech by popular internet platforms. I'm personally center left, but in no way d…

I'll give a very personal account. I was in the past harassed on Twitter. I received death threats and users were giving out my phone number and address to other Twitter users via DM. I filed an official complaint, and Twitter's response was this is not harassment, we won't do anything. I am pretty sure because of my political views the Twitter support representative decided they didn't like me. The hypocrisy, bias,…

Sorry dude. I have a lot of respect for those who voice non-left opinions publicly. Something I would never do myself because of the repercussions in SV. Its insane. And I would not expose my IP to any of these services either, because as we see, there are uncontrolled, bleeding-hearts who are probably not afraid and maybe feel its their duty to unmask/dox ppl.

This time period has solidified my acknowledgement for the need for true legal protections of freedom of speech, and ultimately the need for society to respect this as a whole. Something that should be ingrained in all citizens as much as possible. Before Trump, I never thought that people could go this crazy with censorship. And I somehow thought that the smart people of SV would get this...

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by arkh »

bad_user wrote: post #42
TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So now we can debate whether they (Nazis, or whoever) should be allowed to use a platform, allowing themselves to be identified and dealt with by the law. In that regard there is no global consensus. And arguments for and against can be quite compelling. We know that attempting to suppress ideas can have unintended consequences.

I am against censorship, however as an European I agree with our country's constitution that says freedom of speech is granted only as far as hate speech isn't involved. Of course who should have the power to identify hate speech and censor content and what the definition of hate speech is, that's debatable. However a platform like Twitter is also private property, another right protected by the constitution and peop…

Freedom of speech is an absolute. You have it or you do not.

The moment you start restricting it you don't have any. I'm from France and there is no freedom of speech here.

If you think laws made to fight against "hate speech" will stay in their current form you forget about what happened with special anti-terrorist laws. They always get applied to more and more things. What is accepted speech today can be hate speech tomorrow. Remember: the power we let good government get will also be available to shitty government later.

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife »

arca_vorago wrote: post #83
bad_user wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am against censorship, however as an European I agree with our country's constitution that says freedom of speech is granted only as far as hate speech isn't involved. Of course who should have the power to identify hate speech and censor content and what the definition of hate speech is, that's debatable. However a platform like Twitter is also private property, another right protected by the constitution and peop…

That's because your governments constitution is viciously flawed compared to Americas, in which a system was established on the idea that we have rights independent of government and the government is only there to protect those rights, and may not infringe those rights. The argument isn't let any particular $hatedgroupofthemoment speak... the argument is that you have no right to presume yourself or anyone else to h…

I honestly think your comment would be much stronger if it didn't start with the viciously flawed comparison.

It was emotionally difficult for me to get past that first sentence. I otherwise agree the US Constitution, in theory is, potential, exceptionally powerful.

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by product50 »

nodesocket wrote: post #36
mankash666 wrote: post #2

This article shines light on the power bestowed upon Twitter employees. They can randomly deactivate one's account, and unless you're the president, you might not have any recourse. Particularly worrisome is the general left leaning political and social affiliation of such employees. We are an era of systemic censorship of right leaning speech by popular internet platforms. I'm personally center left, but in no way d…

I'll give a very personal account. I was in the past harassed on Twitter. I received death threats and users were giving out my phone number and address to other Twitter users via DM. I filed an official complaint, and Twitter's response was this is not harassment, we won't do anything. I am pretty sure because of my political views the Twitter support representative decided they didn't like me. The hypocrisy, bias,…

The only fact in your statement is that you received threats. Rest is all your interpretation which suits your argument especially how Twitter didn't look into your matter because of your political inclination.

I am surprised that Twitter didn't react more strongly especially given your claim that you received death threats on the platform. Maybe there is something missing here too?

Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by [deleted] »

product50 wrote: post #98
nodesocket wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll give a very personal account. I was in the past harassed on Twitter. I received death threats and users were giving out my phone number and address to other Twitter users via DM. I filed an official complaint, and Twitter's response was this is not harassment, we won't do anything. I am pretty sure because of my political views the Twitter support representative decided they didn't like me. The hypocrisy, bias,…

The only fact in your statement is that you received threats. Rest is all your interpretation which suits your argument especially how Twitter didn't look into your matter because of your political inclination. I am surprised that Twitter didn't react more strongly especially given your claim that you received death threats on the platform. Maybe there is something missing here too?

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Re: Twitter employee deactivates Trump account

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Post by product50 »

arachnids wrote: post #35
mankash666 wrote: post #2

This article shines light on the power bestowed upon Twitter employees. They can randomly deactivate one's account, and unless you're the president, you might not have any recourse. Particularly worrisome is the general left leaning political and social affiliation of such employees. We are an era of systemic censorship of right leaning speech by popular internet platforms. I'm personally center left, but in no way d…

> power bestowed upon Twitter employees Customer support agents need to take actions against people's accounts. This is literally their job description. This is true at every company. > you might not have any recourse. Free service. > We are an era of systemic censorship of right leaning speech by popular internet platforms. lol

Yeah - I am not sure what the expectation is. So, going forward, every account reject needs to go through 3 approvals? Then, we will hear how Twitter is so slow tackling abuse and hate on its platform (and ftr, it is already pretty slow).
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