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'Big Void' Identified in Khufu's Great Pyramid at Giza

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Re: 'Big Void' Identified in Khufu's Great Pyramid at Giza

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Post by justinator »

virmundi wrote: post #83
bertomartin wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"...for some reason:" - they shouldn't be allowed to destroy such an important monument to satisfy their curiosity.

A) proper digging shouldn’t destroy the monument. B) removal of parts of the structure is how we know what’s in it at all. The same is true for any othe other monuments that are structures. We had to dig through the valley of the kings to find the tombs. If we don’t breech the obstruction, we won’t understand the thing.

It's at the very least, a double-edged sword. You're essentially condoning grave robbing.

Re: 'Big Void' Identified in Khufu's Great Pyramid at Giza

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Post by kzrdude »

justinator wrote: post #91
virmundi wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A) proper digging shouldn’t destroy the monument. B) removal of parts of the structure is how we know what’s in it at all. The same is true for any othe other monuments that are structures. We had to dig through the valley of the kings to find the tombs. If we don’t breech the obstruction, we won’t understand the thing.

It's at the very least, a double-edged sword. You're essentially condoning grave robbing.

Traditional archaeology is well documented, controlled, and destructive.

Re: 'Big Void' Identified in Khufu's Great Pyramid at Giza

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Post by padobson »

avar wrote: post #58

This diagram shows a shaft going into this void from two sides. I was wondering why they don't send a robot down into those. Seems the answer is that they have, but there's something blocking the shaft and they're not willing to destroy it any further for some reason: http://guardians.net/hawass/articles/news_on_the_robot_Dec_2... http://www.crystalinks.com/gantenbrink.html http://www.gizapower.com/Articles/door2.htm…

This shaft is 4500 years old. I wonder how many people have been down it.

It seems arrogant to call the "big void" a discovery, being that someone actually built the big void.

I would expect this "discovery" has been discovered a few dozen times, considering the age of the pyramids, but previous discoveries were lost to history.

Re: 'Big Void' Identified in Khufu's Great Pyramid at Giza

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Post by rurban »

qubex wrote: post #70
singularity2001 wrote: post #65

does that disprove Jean-Pierre Houdin's beautiful theory, that there is an inner construction passage? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lasCXujNPfs&list=PLf_5zbxiQ4...

On the contrary, it is no coincidence that it this has been found by a team comprised of (also) French academics. This is very much compatible and inspired by his work. His theory involves the Grand Gallery being a purely functional structure required to accodate a trolley that helped serve as a counterweight to heave the massive stones that relieve the weight acting upon the roof of the King’s Chamber. Implicit in t…

The anteroom, or rather the container room for the ship and horses for his last travel?

Or maybe another gallery leading to a third chamber. These are my theories.

Re: 'Big Void' Identified in Khufu's Great Pyramid at Giza

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Post by dredmorbius »

kbenson wrote: post #81
jacobush wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was thinking in the case the civilization lost access to a lot of basic data. Then finding the magic satellite without magic radar, maybe without even knowing about the magic satellite amongst all the other satellites up there.

A deep cave structure on the moon, and large triangles formed into the lunarscape visible from telescope on earth pointing towards the entrance. Bonus: You'll probably spur space development technology faster than normal for any civilization that can see it.

Bury a bunch of magnets ....

Re: 'Big Void' Identified in Khufu's Great Pyramid at Giza

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Post by soVeryTired »

Piskvorrr wrote: post #88
avar wrote: post #58

This diagram shows a shaft going into this void from two sides. I was wondering why they don't send a robot down into those. Seems the answer is that they have, but there's something blocking the shaft and they're not willing to destroy it any further for some reason: http://guardians.net/hawass/articles/news_on_the_robot_Dec_2... http://www.crystalinks.com/gantenbrink.html http://www.gizapower.com/Articles/door2.htm…

Um, no. The diagram is 2D, pyramid is 3D; by losing one dimension, disjoint objects seem connected. Even in the image, shaft passes behind the void, not through it. (In other words, this is not a girl with a tree growing out of her head, either: https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/188/434949407_3271582421_z.jpg... )

Fair point, if a touch aggressive

Re: 'Big Void' Identified in Khufu's Great Pyramid at Giza

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Post by mobilefriendly »

padobson wrote: post #93
avar wrote: post #58

This diagram shows a shaft going into this void from two sides. I was wondering why they don't send a robot down into those. Seems the answer is that they have, but there's something blocking the shaft and they're not willing to destroy it any further for some reason: http://guardians.net/hawass/articles/news_on_the_robot_Dec_2... http://www.crystalinks.com/gantenbrink.html http://www.gizapower.com/Articles/door2.htm…

This shaft is 4500 years old. I wonder how many people have been down it. It seems arrogant to call the "big void" a discovery, being that someone actually built the big void. I would expect this "discovery" has been discovered a few dozen times, considering the age of the pyramids, but previous discoveries were lost to history.

"discovery" in the sense that the modern world previously had no understanding that it existed. It is the same logic that Columbus discovered America-- obviously it existed but the discovery was revealing it to the rest of the world.

Re: 'Big Void' Identified in Khufu's Great Pyramid at Giza

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Post by [deleted] »

Piskvorrr wrote: post #88
avar wrote: post #58

This diagram shows a shaft going into this void from two sides. I was wondering why they don't send a robot down into those. Seems the answer is that they have, but there's something blocking the shaft and they're not willing to destroy it any further for some reason: http://guardians.net/hawass/articles/news_on_the_robot_Dec_2... http://www.crystalinks.com/gantenbrink.html http://www.gizapower.com/Articles/door2.htm…

Um, no. The diagram is 2D, pyramid is 3D; by losing one dimension, disjoint objects seem connected. Even in the image, shaft passes behind the void, not through it. (In other words, this is not a girl with a tree growing out of her head, either: https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/188/434949407_3271582421_z.jpg... )

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Re: 'Big Void' Identified in Khufu's Great Pyramid at Giza

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Post by tryingagainbro »

bertomartin wrote: post #80
avar wrote: post #58

This diagram shows a shaft going into this void from two sides. I was wondering why they don't send a robot down into those. Seems the answer is that they have, but there's something blocking the shaft and they're not willing to destroy it any further for some reason: http://guardians.net/hawass/articles/news_on_the_robot_Dec_2... http://www.crystalinks.com/gantenbrink.html http://www.gizapower.com/Articles/door2.htm…

"...for some reason:" - they shouldn't be allowed to destroy such an important monument to satisfy their curiosity.

100% agree. Let's wait, been waiting for millennia already. Otherwise, next year another team has another curiosity that requires just a small hole...and 2000 years later the thing is crumbling.

Re: 'Big Void' Identified in Khufu's Great Pyramid at Giza

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Post by mcphage »

rurban wrote: post #94
qubex wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the contrary, it is no coincidence that it this has been found by a team comprised of (also) French academics. This is very much compatible and inspired by his work. His theory involves the Grand Gallery being a purely functional structure required to accodate a trolley that helped serve as a counterweight to heave the massive stones that relieve the weight acting upon the roof of the King’s Chamber. Implicit in t…

The anteroom, or rather the container room for the ship and horses for his last travel? Or maybe another gallery leading to a third chamber. These are my theories.

> rather the container room for the ship

Didn't they discover ship graves outside the pyramid?

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