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How the Kodi Box Took Over Piracy

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Re: How the Kodi Box Took Over Piracy

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"In the UK, Kodi boxes have garnered more attention from authorities, thanks to stingy soccer fanatics driving an early swell of adoption" This is very unfair. I don't own a Kodi box, but in the UK it's against the law to show football games on TV on Saturday between 2:45pm and 5:15pm [1]. So it's not "stingy" football fans, it's fans that have no other way to watch a 3pm kick off without actually going to the game i…

Wow, that's seriously ridiculous. What a strange place.

Re: How the Kodi Box Took Over Piracy

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There's a massive gap between the pirate service and the "legitimate" media service. For one, you can just type something in, and get the movie you want. You don't have to navigate between 15 different services, and then find out the film is only available on mail-order DVD, or in other countries. For television, the networks are HORRIBLE about providing their content to cord-cutters. Want to watch the latest episode…

> CBS hiding Star Trek behind their proprietary $10/month service is going to kill Star Trek, because the intended audience sees it as a bullshit cash grab. Interestingly, that seems to be US (and I think Canada) only. The rest of us get the new episode on Netflix every Monday. The new one should be ready by now. Of course, if I want to actually watch it in 1080p I still have to resort to piracy, because Netflix does…

I actually went to sign up for the CBS thing via Apple TV and was greeted with a ridiculous privacy policy saying something along the lines of they reserve the right to sell all my personal data to third parties.

You're better off downloading in that case.

The other CBS shows also look painfully bad (Little Sheldon?) - so I probably dodged a bullet anyway.

Re: How the Kodi Box Took Over Piracy

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It drives me insane that we keep thinking that digital goods should be treated the same as physical goods. It makes no sense to me that we think of distribution as "hard". Distribution is soooo easy, and it's effectively free. The only reason we have these gatekeepers in the way now (hbo, netflix, etc) is that we haven't figured out a way to fix our antiquated financial models.

I don't see "piracy" as a problem, I see it as more efficient in our current situation.

Re: How the Kodi Box Took Over Piracy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a big fan of comcast, but their x1 boxes do a pretty good job of aggregating content and giving it to you wherever it comes from. They have a deep on demand selection and include netflix access, if you use netflix.

Oh man, I used a friends X1 box this weekend. The voice search was terrible. It couldn't understand "Chucky" in a midwestern accent.

Did you mean Chunky? ...Janky? ...Chutney? ...Catchy? ...Junky? ...Chicken? ...Jaunty? ...Twelve? ...Internet? ...Antidisestablishmentarianism?

Re: How the Kodi Box Took Over Piracy

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Just think for a second about the hyperbole involved in even calling it piracy. Piracy implies not only theft, which isn't applicable since there is no deprivation, but the pillage of a vessel on the high seas, and the kidnapping (and possibly enslavement, slaughter, rape, or drowning) of its crew. I think that this (and a whole system of) hyperbole has made it impossible to even talk about it. The MPAA and other sim…

> On-demand (Netflix, Hulu, HBO's online thingy, iPlayer, what have you) has been the most effective way to actually recover rights-holder revenues. And yet those same rights-holders seem hell-bent on squandering the opportunity they were given, by splintering their offerings among their own pay services instead of offering them multiple places. I already pay for Netflix. I'm considering paying for Hulu. But there's…

Who remembers when everyone complained about TV bundles and paying for shit you don't watch...

Re: How the Kodi Box Took Over Piracy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The FA Laws have this regulation for a reason. To see a football match between 2:45pm and 5:15pm, go to one of them! Live! It is much more fun and entertaining the TV, with 91[1] clubs in the football league and many more football matches in non-League. It is easy and cheap to see a live football match. It not all about the Premiership. Without supporting the lower league clubs, the top teams, do do have the talent c…

I genuinely wonder if you're not being paid to write this comment

I am not being paid. Also it was good planning of me to set-up my account 908 days ago.

I just have a passion for protecting parts of football by regulation. Not every sport is about TV rights.

Re: How the Kodi Box Took Over Piracy

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Anyone else have fond memories of playing around with a modchipped original Xbox? I know I do. I think I still have that thing somewhere in a box, XECUTER3 and all. I don't think the article makes a big enough point about Kodi being rooted in XBMC, and XBMC being a project that started on the Xbox homebrew scene. Kodi's roots in XBMC are inherently tied to piracy, because every early developer and user had to chip th…

Very fond memories. Never thought it would be so (relatively) easy to hack wide open such a well protected system like the Xbox. It was so much fun and i learned a lot in the process about BIOSes and firmware.

It also taught me that any device can be (ab)used to the max if you just have the right tools and knowledge. Some exploits are so amazingly easy.

XBMC/Kodi is awesome. I bet there will be a lot of copy procjets if they ever try to lock it down.

Re: How the Kodi Box Took Over Piracy

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"In the UK, Kodi boxes have garnered more attention from authorities, thanks to stingy soccer fanatics driving an early swell of adoption" This is very unfair. I don't own a Kodi box, but in the UK it's against the law to show football games on TV on Saturday between 2:45pm and 5:15pm [1]. So it's not "stingy" football fans, it's fans that have no other way to watch a 3pm kick off without actually going to the game i…

This is an example of market forces at work.

In case you're not being scarcastic: There is no such thing as these vague "market forces" you proclaim.

Re: How the Kodi Box Took Over Piracy

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post #91

"In the UK, Kodi boxes have garnered more attention from authorities, thanks to stingy soccer fanatics driving an early swell of adoption" This is very unfair. I don't own a Kodi box, but in the UK it's against the law to show football games on TV on Saturday between 2:45pm and 5:15pm [1]. So it's not "stingy" football fans, it's fans that have no other way to watch a 3pm kick off without actually going to the game i…

Wow, that's seriously ridiculous. What a strange place.

It's a fairly common practice: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackout_(broadcasting)

Re: How the Kodi Box Took Over Piracy

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I was surprised by how prevelant these boxes are. It seems that every second family with kids has these and are streaming media to it. These families had no idea what torrents are, but were using pirated content basically every day and streaming it a la netflix. It is the future of piracy for sure. I suspect it is many many times larger in scope that torrents are currently. (BTW I do not have one of these.)

I know several people with access to Kodi that don't regard it as theft/piracy. They become pretty defensive when you accuse them of it. How do you think IP owners can adapt when piracy is made so transparent that it doesn't even feel like piracy anymore?

If charging for the content or showing separate ads is not an option, one solution is to setup sponsorship agreements and/or build the advertising into the shows.

Creative people can probably come up with also more subtle ways for doing this than the obvious Apple or Dell logo on computer or laptop or Pepsi can on the table. I could imagine some cross media campaigns for example which start to blur the division between shows and reality.

For more efficient targeting you could switch to airing the shows through social network sites, like Facebook and Twitter. This way you could actually tailor the products placements for different customer segments based on their profile. With the current level of computer graphics this is getting feasible. For example in sport events they are already dynamically imposing the ads on the side of the field to TV feed (so that you can show different ads to different markets)[1]

[1] http://www.supponor.com/

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