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Re: SpaceX: Making Life Multiplanetary [video]

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Post by staticelf »

evanlivingston wrote: post #75
Osmium wrote: post #11

Honestly, Elon's presentations are some of the most impressive, inspiring I've ever seen. And the way he just stumbles out words and sentences that are completely revolutionary... casually dropping these absurd, incredible statements. I find it incredible. If anyone else was saying this, was showing these graphics, you'd think it was just wish fulfillment; a fantasy. And I'm sure their timeline is a bit aggressive. B…

I would be really excited about a future where everyone had access to clean water. Going to space is fun and exciting. The future of space travel is going to be interesting, but it essential that when we imagine the future that we do so while recognizing the glaring problems of today.

With increased technology comes more liberties for all. With your kind of thinking we would still live in caves because why work on anything unless we solve all our social issues first?

Progress is not made by politicians, it is made by engineers. If you want clean water for all humans, you should be supportive of discovering new stuff.

For example, for humans to survive in hostile environments on other planets we need to create new innovations and that creates a big incentive to figure out technological solutions to hard problems.

Turning salt water into drinkable water is one, this one is actually already solved and being implemented across different countries and if we can improve that and make it cheaper we will have solved the problem of water already.

Re: SpaceX: Making Life Multiplanetary [video]

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Post by piquadrat »

pm wrote: post #61
Osmium wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ironically, I think SpaceX will have a lot more trouble with any E2E ambitions than they would with missions to Mars. So much red tape, no one's going to want a space-port in their backyard, different/difficult economics, safety concerns, terrorism concerns, etc. etc.

Honestly I would love a spaceport in my backyard, seeing as we just hosted the International Astronautical Congress too.

The International Astronautical Congress doesn't come with multiple sonic booms per day.

Re: SpaceX: Making Life Multiplanetary [video]

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Post by the8472 »

hacker_9 wrote: post #77

Great presentation, only thing I'm worried about is human flight in these things. I mean what happens if this thing is 1% off on the landing? Does the whole thing topple over and blow up into a million pieces? Additionally with the entire flight being automated, what happens if the software gets taken over in space and they just drop it like a rock onto a city? The damage would be catastrophic. We need Elon to invest…

no worse than dropping an airplane on a city

Re: SpaceX: Making Life Multiplanetary [video]

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Post by joselreyes »

ciconia wrote: post #60

Just like everybody else I'm really blown away by what SpaceX does, but at the same time I think the question begs to be asked: Has humanity already given up on earth as a home? Is the future really about planets as disposable habitats?

Remember the goal is a multiplanetary species. Earth is a part of the multiple planets.

Re: SpaceX: Making Life Multiplanetary [video]

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Post by andrewtbham »

audeyisaacs wrote: post #29

Musk's speaking is always a little awkward (in an endearing way), but did he seem significantly more nervous/emotionally affected than usual in the first part of this speech? It seemed that way to me, curious if anyone else interpreted it like that. He calms down when he starts talking about risk and it being the anniversary of a launch. edit: Good and fun presentation regardless! edit2: Thoughts: - Maybe he feels in…

he told a few jokes that bombed. tough crowd.

Re: SpaceX: Making Life Multiplanetary [video]

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Post by grondilu »

This plan sounds much more sensible than most of what I've heard from Musk before.

Especially the intercontinental transport part. That is a real business use-case, potentially very lucrative. I also suspect that could get quite a few more billionaires excited (after all they spend a lot of time in private jets and I'm sure they'd like to cut that time off) which could help raising more investment.

I don't believe there is much to do on mars or the moon, not much that would make economical sense anyway. But intercontinental transport? That could work.

Re: SpaceX: Making Life Multiplanetary [video]

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Post by llukas »

staticelf wrote: post #91
evanlivingston wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would be really excited about a future where everyone had access to clean water. Going to space is fun and exciting. The future of space travel is going to be interesting, but it essential that when we imagine the future that we do so while recognizing the glaring problems of today.

With increased technology comes more liberties for all. With your kind of thinking we would still live in caves because why work on anything unless we solve all our social issues first? Progress is not made by politicians, it is made by engineers. If you want clean water for all humans, you should be supportive of discovering new stuff. For example, for humans to survive in hostile environments on other planets we ne…

> Progress is not made by politicians, it is made by engineers.

It is very easy to forget that high-tech engineer is a species that only thrives in politically stable countries.

Standing on the shoulders of giants is not only about your predecessors that solved engineering problems so you can dive even deeper - it is also about society which found better ways over time for effective financing that allows science&engineering to happen.

Also please read (for example) about Samsung and Nokia - they were forced to change industries by politicians in their respective countries.

Re: SpaceX: Making Life Multiplanetary [video]

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Post by deepGem »

Osmium wrote: post #11

Honestly, Elon's presentations are some of the most impressive, inspiring I've ever seen. And the way he just stumbles out words and sentences that are completely revolutionary... casually dropping these absurd, incredible statements. I find it incredible. If anyone else was saying this, was showing these graphics, you'd think it was just wish fulfillment; a fantasy. And I'm sure their timeline is a bit aggressive. B…

This is how I've always felt about presentations, not just by Musk but anyone who presents candidly. Warren Buffett, Charlie Munger, Bill Gates also present more or less similar characteristics. They don't prepare/rehearse for the talk. They are thinking on the fly, but they are still confident. This natural behavior is what makes listening and watching to these people so gratifying.

Re: SpaceX: Making Life Multiplanetary [video]

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Post by pasta »

audeyisaacs wrote: post #29

Musk's speaking is always a little awkward (in an endearing way), but did he seem significantly more nervous/emotionally affected than usual in the first part of this speech? It seemed that way to me, curious if anyone else interpreted it like that. He calms down when he starts talking about risk and it being the anniversary of a launch. edit: Good and fun presentation regardless! edit2: Thoughts: - Maybe he feels in…

He said that it was an emotional day for him.
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