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That's complete nonsense. Once people grow older (the one's who have the money for your product), email is the standard. No one sits on text messaging all day to communicate any real business.
I don't know most of my friends' email addresses, and those I do know, I wouldn't be sure that they are actually checking them. I'm 32.
> my friends' email addresses
You two are talking about different things.
This is tangential, but needs to be stated: What I've learned from email newletters is that Microsoft Outlook needs to die a swift and horrible death. There is absolutely no good reason why we should have to create email newsletters that require tables for layout.
I'm surprised we haven't seen the mIRC's of email yet (or maybe there have but that just didn't work?). mIRC was a popular client for IRC on Windows. It extended IRC with features such as color and formatting in your messages, which was beyond the protocol. A feature like that worked just fine because the color codes were mostly invisible to those who weren't using a client that supported them. In this way, mIRC and…
There are dozens of apps like this. The most straightforward example is probably Redkix.
"[...] People seem to hate email for the same reasons they once loved it. Email's underlying triumph, the quality that made it revolutionary, was that you could instantly deliver a written message to someone even if they weren't there to receive it. [...] Email is neutral, meaning that anyone can email anyone else with an email address. If you have a person's email address, your message will be delivered no matter wh…
> Email is a set of protocol and thus it _will_ outlive any centalised, closed, walled garden. What stops email going the way of XMPP?
A better question might be: what can possibly replace email as an online identity - and also - do such a better job at it that I feel inclined to switch the 100's of services over to it - a task I would not take lightly.
Email is so much more than just a protocol.
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Also XMPP, but that's not gained a lot of traction. IRC also doesn't seem primed to burst back onto the scene. (To be honest, the only thing I really like about slack over IRC is history. I wonder if that couldn't be processed in a more peer-to-peer manner over IRC?)
I used to hear people saying all the time "well, the correct way to handle [messaging problem X] is to use XMPP" but more recently people seem to talk of it like a dead man walking. Is it really so bad? Is there anything on the horizon that could replace email as an open messaging protocol? I guess kilobyte-sized text snippets are probably a pretty good fit for a blockchain-based trustless messaging service. A millio…
People got familiar with email because their ISP/employer provided them with an email address. Eventually it became a thing on it's own. Chat was never like that. There was always one service you used, and all your friends used. Now that's gchat and facebook chat.
Maybe in US this holds, but things may be different in different places. I'm a Chinese living in the bay area. I think people here treat E-mails as part of their daily life probably because most of them began to use it before the mobile internet is a thing. On the contrary, in China where the majority internet users are mobile-savvy, WeChat is the new email. Actually E-mails are only for official communications there…
Messaging apps like WeChat and Slack are really too ephemeral for discussion and documentation of serious business matters, in my experience.
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The big companies gave up on it. Google, Facebook, etc. Everyone wants their product to be the new hotness. See the copying of stickers, voice messages, and payments from Chinese/Japanese messaging products. Or how Skype became a Snapchat clone.
Companies giving up on open standards in favor of their own walled gardens does not really provide a meaningful commentary on the open standards themselves. XMPP itself is a bit of a mess, but it's a standard with a lot of adoption, which has its own value.
Maybe in US this holds, but things may be different in different places. I'm a Chinese living in the bay area. I think people here treat E-mails as part of their daily life probably because most of them began to use it before the mobile internet is a thing. On the contrary, in China where the majority internet users are mobile-savvy, WeChat is the new email. Actually E-mails are only for official communications there…
I've got 13 years of emails in my personal gmail account, keeping track of everything from bill payments & receipts to valuable conversations. How does WeChat satisfy something very long-term like that? I don't see how any of the existing, popular messaging platforms can replace the fixed, archival value of email. The majority of Internet users in the US - nearly 80% of US adults have a smartphone - are mobile savvy…
You can search your message history. I think that's enough for most personal archives. Of course if WeChat goes away, many people will be unable to access their archives, but at the moment, few seem to be worrying about that.
> Being mobile savvy has nothing to do with it.
Not being internet savvy before becoming mobile savvy has something to do with it. I'd wager that most heavy email users had an email address before they got their smart phone.
If you don't already have an extensive email archive, keeping all your personal communication in email no longer seems so compelling.
This is tangential, but needs to be stated: What I've learned from email newletters is that Microsoft Outlook needs to die a swift and horrible death. There is absolutely no good reason why we should have to create email newsletters that require tables for layout.
I'm surprised we haven't seen the mIRC's of email yet (or maybe there have but that just didn't work?). mIRC was a popular client for IRC on Windows. It extended IRC with features such as color and formatting in your messages, which was beyond the protocol. A feature like that worked just fine because the color codes were mostly invisible to those who weren't using a client that supported them. In this way, mIRC and…
[1] https://mobile.nytimes.com/2010/11/25/technology/personaltec...
e-mail seems to be dying fast. I have several friends (all under 30) who are only reachable via facebook or SMS; e-mail is an afterthought.
Even in a professional setting?
Independent contractors I've hired all prefer text.
The gym I'm a member of uses a facebook group rather than e-mail for communcating things like changes to the regular hours or special events.