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Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

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Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

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I wish open source projects publish the compiled .apk file not just the source code. If I want to install this on my Fire HD I either have to download the .apk from some dodgy mirror site or install Google Play with some workaround on the Fire HD. Cause Firefox Focus is not available in the Amazon App Store. I mean yeah I can do both in the end, not a big deal, but I just want the .apk nothing else.

It's on Fdroid

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

#92
post #68

I wish open source projects publish the compiled .apk file not just the source code. If I want to install this on my Fire HD I either have to download the .apk from some dodgy mirror site or install Google Play with some workaround on the Fire HD. Cause Firefox Focus is not available in the Amazon App Store. I mean yeah I can do both in the end, not a big deal, but I just want the .apk nothing else.

You should absolutely install Google Play store on the Fire HD. It's not difficult.

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

#93

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Your assumptions are correct.

Mh. It's amazing how far apart I got from every single one of Mozilla's visions, from using Firefox as my main browser 8 years ago. I love the fact that—as an example—as I travel Google shows me tools that I'll be interested in, like a currency converter, translate + word of the day in the local language, etc. etc. I would absolutely hate having my main browser constantly forget who I am. I feel almost blessed every…

I actually love this browser (been using it for a month or two), but it seems like your usage is just different.

I prefer to stay anonymous, but use the "real" FF occasionally for stuff I need to be logged in for. Browsing links friends send me, or checking something with a quick google search is something that I'd rather stay anonymous for, so I prefer having it available.

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

#94

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The purpose is to be used for quick browsing, like Google Searches, without worrying with trackers and someone getting your history. You can always use incognito mode, but this is more convenient. It is also really fast and lightweight, which is a plus for most mobile devices. It is not meant to replace your main browser (probably). Also, as rcthompson said in another comment: > This is useful to use as your default…

I see. Honestly, most of the time when I use Google Searches is because I want to look for something, and I love when Google personalizes results so that if I type "Amiga" it knows it's the computer and I don't want to learn Spanish. Most importantly, I end up visiting lots of websites that I might want to comment on, visit later on/not lose if my phone dies, share with my girlfriend, etc. I personally don't see any…

I want to see the same internet as everyone else. The more my experience is customized to me, the more disconnected I am from people who aren't like me, and the more our views will diverge over time. Ultimately it leads to bad outcomes; Trump, or possibly eventually civil war. So I am against too much automatic hidden customisation.

You might think that's hyperbole. I don't. I'm deadly serious; I think something worse than Trump is coming down the tracks because of an increasingly divided polis, and it's divided because of atomisation of world perspective. Filter bubbles driven by hidden preferences are directly responsible for shielding people from unpleasant perspectives, on both sides.

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

#95

Firefox Focus is great. It's amazing how much better web readability and performance gets when you block most of the adtech garbage.

What exactly is great about firefox focus ? What does it have over installing ublock origins in any other browser ?

Not OP but I find the ad-blocking not to be great, and I'd love to have a JS blocker built in. Focus is nice to have as a "default to privacy mode" option, but I definitely end up missing my addons.

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

#96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The purpose is to be used for quick browsing, like Google Searches, without worrying with trackers and someone getting your history. You can always use incognito mode, but this is more convenient. It is also really fast and lightweight, which is a plus for most mobile devices. It is not meant to replace your main browser (probably). Also, as rcthompson said in another comment: > This is useful to use as your default…

But it's been pointed out in the top comment that the browser itself includes a tracking and reporting antifeature. So much for not worrying about tracking.

Depends on what it's tracking. There's a huge difference between "On average Focus was started 30 times a day by any single user" (which can inform resource allocation decisions for that project) and "bigbugbag was reading hacker news for 4 hours on Tuesday" (uhm. no.)

They should be more transparent and upfront what they're collecting and why though.

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

#97
I love Focus. I wrote about it here[1], albeit poorly, but it just made me so happy to be able to use my phone again for web browsing. Sometimes I open Chrome and the tab that loads was something I was testing weeks prior... it's taken that big of a backseat to Firefox Focus.

[1]: https://epatr.com/blog/2017/firefox-focus/

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

#98

So, if I understand this correctly... It's a regular browser, but like you're always in private mode + it's got a built-in ad blocker? If I want to check Hacker News let's say 5 times throughout the day and feel like leaving a comment, I have to login again, without autocomplete..? Maybe I'm missing something.

>Maybe I'm missing something.

The features you explained are exactly what I was looking for in a mobile browser. In fact, i wish they launch Focus for Desktops operating systems too.

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

#100
post #68

I wish open source projects publish the compiled .apk file not just the source code. If I want to install this on my Fire HD I either have to download the .apk from some dodgy mirror site or install Google Play with some workaround on the Fire HD. Cause Firefox Focus is not available in the Amazon App Store. I mean yeah I can do both in the end, not a big deal, but I just want the .apk nothing else.

You should absolutely install Google Play store on the Fire HD. It's not difficult.

That drags in all the other google services and "telemetry" and gives google root on his phone, which he may not want
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