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Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Stores have cameras and Visa cards have unique numbers. Not too hard to put the two together. Bitcoin let's you transact without having to interact in physical space to acquire or spend them.

And just how are you going to do a dollar bitcoin exchange without revealing any information about your identity?

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Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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How is their catchall support? Last I checked into the status, they only planned to support it for business accounts and limited sending to only a few aliases.

ProtonMail now supports catch-all email for ProtonMail Professional and Visionary plans. That means for each domain that has email hosted at ProtonMail, you can now designate one email address as the catch-all address by going to Settings –> Domains. For example, info@me.com could receive any email sent to the @me.com domain, even if the address did not exist. You can learn more about catch-all emails here ( https://…

Can you send email back from the addresses the email was sent to? I think when I was looking into it, ProtonMail caps how many aliases you can create; making it not that good for catchall.

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Try to relax a bit. It is good for your health. :) Both of those features are under development. If you would like to see them sooner rather than later, perhaps you know some great programmers that you could recommend to careers@protonmail.ch? Or, you could share ProtonMail's Careers page: https://protonmail.com/careers ProtonMail is hiring!

Protonmail fan and user here. Guys, honestly there are better ways to respond to customers and potential customers, without the patronizing tone. That can't possibly help.

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Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Try to relax a bit. It is good for your health. :) Both of those features are under development. If you would like to see them sooner rather than later, perhaps you know some great programmers that you could recommend to careers@protonmail.ch? Or, you could share ProtonMail's Careers page: https://protonmail.com/careers ProtonMail is hiring!

This is a great example of how not to interact with customers. Telling a customer who's been waiting on a feature for over a year to relax is just insulting. I picked Fastmail due to their excellent support reputation, you all could learn from them!

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Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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PR. Nothing else. Who wants to pay with Bitcoin when Bitcoin is skyrocketing like crazy?

That's not how this works at all.

The current price of Bitcoin is the market's best prediction of the present value of holding a bitcoin. When you spend $20 worth of bitcoin, you lose an expected $20 worth of utility from holding bitcoin (and, presumably, gain at least $20 of expected subjective utility from whatever you're buying). The past price of Bitcoin has no bearing on a rational actor's willingness to use it as a medium of exchange.

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Sometimes the customer is either flat wrong or at least an asshole. ProtonMail sends yearly surveys to paying customers asking for help prioritizing development efforts, so suggesting they don't listen to their customers is asinine. IMAP support is in beta as a result of customers prioritizing it in those surveys. As they are likely limited primarily by funding and developer bandwidth, I see nothing wrong with their…

Fair point, but exporting email? These aren't crazy ideas from one person's wishlist. These are actual features that should be standard for any company providing an email service.

(Genuine question, haven't used it in the last few years.) Does Gmail support exporting email, other than using IMAP which I understand Proton also has in beta?

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I'm thinking of switching my business email to protonmail from gmail. Any users like it ? The whole google memo revealed google employees are not as trustworthy as I thought. All the social media talk of blacklists, and inquisition tactics from some of upper management is bad for business. I've already gotten emails from clients asking me to change their business google services to something else (anything else in th…

I've not seen anyone else talking about mailbox.org. I've been using them for a while after moving away from Fastmail and I'm loving it. Cheap and they're recommeded by https://www.privacytools.io/ .

I've been with them for over a year now as well and not a single issue. The interface is a bit cumbersome in some ways, it's a customized OpenXchange, so some mailbox.org-specific settings are done outside of the rest of the more general OpenXchange settings.

What you get with mailbox.org that you don't get with ProtonMail:

  * IMAP and SMTP
  * Support for hardware 2FA dongles like Yubikey
  * Ability to use your own GPG keys
  * Very capable mail filter config tool
  * Calendaring and contacts (with nice URLs so it's easy to use on Android via DAVdroid instead of Google's stuff)
  * File storage
  * Web-based spreadsheet, word processor and presentation tool
Their jurisdiction is Germany so you get whatever is left of EU privacy laws plus the Germany-specific ones.

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Fair point, but exporting email? These aren't crazy ideas from one person's wishlist. These are actual features that should be standard for any company providing an email service.

(Genuine question, haven't used it in the last few years.) Does Gmail support exporting email, other than using IMAP which I understand Proton also has in beta?

Yes, Google Takeout: https://takeout.google.com/settings/takeout

I remember reading that they have committed to letting you download all you data from all their properties, and the list on that page is certainly long, but I can't tell if it's complete.

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Not really. You can unlink all of your cryptocurrency transactions with Monero. This is sufficient for fiat too.

It is harder than that though. Monero has an issue in that everyone is only doing ringsize=3 transactions, providing little anonymity. If you buy from an exchange then turn around and sell it back, even with different amounts, you will be on a shortlist of suspects. To do Monero properly you need to wait a while (at least hours, better days) while churning to other addresses, being sure to keep your ringsize and fees…

I could argue the merits of the ringsize but it would be moot because it's being bumped to 10 in September. So I will just leave this here as a note that the argument that a ringsize of 3 is not very anonymous will be moot in September for future readers.
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