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Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

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Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

#91
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What sort of maintenance are performed on these cars?? Seems like there is nothing to be maintained, given the all steel, aluminum, glass stuff everywhere. Does it have any oil changes required, like in brakes or transmission?

Break fluid, battery coolant, drive unit fluid, tires when necessary, wheel alignments when necessary, wiper blades when necessary, key fob batteries. https://www.tesla.com/support/maintenance-plans

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Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

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The parts were supposed to be reduced compared to an ICE. What kind of important parts would they service ? (open question) Proprietary diagnostics is not surprising, not a lot of cars right now have that amount of electronics and software, it's probably reverse engineering to get a glimpse of the car brain on your own.

From what I've heard Telsa vehicles rare in for warranty repairs at a higher rate than most other new vehicles. "The main problem areas involved the drivetrain, power equipment, charging equipment, giant iPad-like center console, and body and sunroof squeaks, rattles, and leaks." The most common problems involve replacement of the electric motors, warped brake rotors, door handles that fail to slide out as a driver a…

Oh I remember this now, but it's 2 years old. I dearly hope Tesla managed to install more durable mecano-electronics parts it would be a bad PR move to have the best electric motor / battery tech next to frail secondary one.

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

#93
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Is there a HUD or do I have to move my eyes to the centre console to check my speed? Seems like bad ergonomics to me... and whereas the road ahead is perhaps still in my peripheral vision when I check my speedo, its less so if I am glancing at the centre console (which maybe has a bunch of other distracting things on it as well?)

Center console indicators are quite common. One advantage is that, the indicators are never blocked when you are in a turn. With your traditional instrument cluster placement, the steering wheel blocks the indicators. Cars with instruments in the center dashboard: Mini Cooper: http://images.hgmsites.net/lrg/2010-mini-cooper-hardtop-2-do... Toyota Yaris: https://cars.usnews.com/static/images/Auto/izmo/306771/2009_...…

Or the Renault Twingo for an even more minimalistic approach:

http://i.auto-bild.de/ir_img/1/1/3/2/4/4/5/Renault-Twingo-72...

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

#94
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's pretty bizarre to treat driving without an $8000 options package as a weird edge case. If autonomous driving is that central, it seems like it should be a basic feature, not an upgrade.

The company likely has the data on the percentage of customers opting in for autonomous features and likely optimized for that. Considering the hardware in every vehicle supports autonomy, it's a feature that could be sold to the customer later on or as an on-demand subscription. If autonomous driving is out of the question, what makes Model 3 appealing compared to a Chevy Bolt, Chevy Volt or a plug-in Prius? edit: I…

> what makes Model 3 appealing compared to ...

Everything that the reviewer wrote.

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

#95
post #81

Is there a HUD or do I have to move my eyes to the centre console to check my speed? Seems like bad ergonomics to me... and whereas the road ahead is perhaps still in my peripheral vision when I check my speedo, its less so if I am glancing at the centre console (which maybe has a bunch of other distracting things on it as well?)

Center console indicators are quite common. One advantage is that, the indicators are never blocked when you are in a turn. With your traditional instrument cluster placement, the steering wheel blocks the indicators. Cars with instruments in the center dashboard: Mini Cooper: http://images.hgmsites.net/lrg/2010-mini-cooper-hardtop-2-do... Toyota Yaris: https://cars.usnews.com/static/images/Auto/izmo/306771/2009_...…

I drive a Mini Cooper from time to time and it's not great. They have a small screen behind the wheel which also displays the speed, but with a low refresh rate so you can go over the limit easily if you don't pay attention.

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

#96
post #6

What sort of maintenance are performed on these cars?? Seems like there is nothing to be maintained, given the all steel, aluminum, glass stuff everywhere. Does it have any oil changes required, like in brakes or transmission?

i can't speak for the Model 3, but i own a Bolt, here's the service schedule for that:

* every 7,500mi: rotate tires

* every 22,500mi: change cabin air filter

* every 5 years: replace brake fluid

* every 150,000mi: replace battery cooling fluid

that's it. crazy!

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

#97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Break fluid, battery coolant, drive unit fluid, tires when necessary, wheel alignments when necessary, wiper blades when necessary, key fob batteries. https://www.tesla.com/support/maintenance-plans

Funnily enough, there is no key fob on a Model 3. You are supposed to use your phone to unlock your car (using Bluetooth) or a key car (using NFC) in case your phone is dead or you do not wish to couple your phone with the vehicle. I personally like the idea because I hate carrying my keys with me and a credit card sized car would be much better for me. But I think Tesla should offer to sell normal key fobs for peopl…

Key card* (?)

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

#98
post #28

I'm sure it's a great car in person, but from a casual observer's perspective, the dash looks like they upcycled the trim from a 70s car/station wagon/boat by sticking a shitty Android tablet onto it. It reminds me of something they'd whip up on Mythbusters to remotely drive off a cliff, under tight budget constraints.

The motor trend reviewer described it as Scandinavian minimalistic, which is more associated with the 60s and midcentury modern style.

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

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post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Center console indicators are quite common. One advantage is that, the indicators are never blocked when you are in a turn. With your traditional instrument cluster placement, the steering wheel blocks the indicators. Cars with instruments in the center dashboard: Mini Cooper: http://images.hgmsites.net/lrg/2010-mini-cooper-hardtop-2-do... Toyota Yaris: https://cars.usnews.com/static/images/Auto/izmo/306771/2009_...…

Or the Renault Twingo for an even more minimalistic approach: http://i.auto-bild.de/ir_img/1/1/3/2/4/4/5/Renault-Twingo-72...

That's a Twingo from 10 years ago, right? Today it looks more like: http://indianautosblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/New-Re...

Re: Tesla Model 3 First Drive Review

#100
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If everything goes right, Model 3 can change the business model of cars. Shift to value add + functionality upgrade based pricing versus a sales and service oriented model.

Also they own the repair market. You can't get your tesla serviced at a normal shop as the software, parts, and diagnostics are proprietary, so they could actually sell the car at a loss and make the big bucks on repairs. I don't want this. But its a viable business model.

Yeh we don't need another John Deere.
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