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Let’s Get Excited About Maintenance

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Re: Let’s Get Excited About Maintenance

#91

I agree with others on the thread that "maintenance or innovation" is a false dichotomy. In particular, I think we need innovative maintenance. For e.g., this article about new ways to fix potholes: https://www.economist.com/news/science-and-technology/217003...

interesting article and comments. one commenter points out that roads break down because of overloading (heavy trucks). another points out that, in colder countries, ice is a major problem for roads.

Re: Let’s Get Excited About Maintenance

#92

I mean, I think the best way to start with this is to use a word other than "maintenance." That's not really the most sexy word if you really want people to get behind it. Furthermore it just suggests that the work is keeping something as good as it was from the beginning. Filling in holes, giving it a coat of paint every now and then. What it really should be called is "refinement." The innovation ends up being incr…

Oh, come on. Remarketing words is buzz, and we really shouldn't encourage it. This is why we're having that ridiculous title-bubble as well, Senior Site Reliability Engineer. Sure, whatever. /sysadmin, who's been doing sysadmin, devops, backend dev, and sre stuff and sometimes do pretty css flies away/

Re: Let’s Get Excited About Maintenance

#93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that you need a sexy word is indicative of the problem.

The fact that you need a sexy word is indicative of _human nature_

If it were something utterly intrinsic to Human Nature, there would be no opposition to it.

Re: Let’s Get Excited About Maintenance

#94

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Relevant smbc: http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2461

How is that relevant

The parent to my original post is an example of exigology.

Paraphrasing: "My code will be gone next year, so I don't care about code style"

Re: Let’s Get Excited About Maintenance

#95

The problem seems to be that we've invested far too much federal money into projects that have to be maintained by local sources of funding. Big federal grants for development that will not produce enough tax revenue to offset the externalities and infrastructure costs that are required to maintain that development are just albatrosses around states and cities' necks. https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2017/1/10/poo…

Strong Towns is great! There's another concept I was introduced to via Strong Towns that I think is important: infrastructure is not an asset. It is a liability. Yet, most cities account for them like they would an asset.

https://www.strongtowns.org/journal/2014/8/19/is-a-street-an...

Re: Let’s Get Excited About Maintenance

#96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is that relevant

The parent to my original post is an example of exigology. Paraphrasing: "My code will be gone next year, so I don't care about code style"

The SMBC comic mocks the people for not being self-aware enough to realize that they are causing their own problem by being apathetic.

> "I'm not good at this because I don't try, so I won't try"

> "Girls don't like me because I have bad hygiene, so why should I bother with hygiene?"

etc.

This would only apply to what I wrote if my code was disappearing because it's not formatted to pass a linter. You and I both know that this isn't the reason code gets deleted. It gets deleted because it gets refactored, or the feature/product it's implementing gets killed.

Furthermore, code quality is not the same thing as code style.

Re: Let’s Get Excited About Maintenance

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post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that you need a sexy word is indicative of _human nature_

If it were something utterly intrinsic to Human Nature, there would be no opposition to it.

By that definition there is no true human nature.

Re: Let’s Get Excited About Maintenance

#98

I mean, I think the best way to start with this is to use a word other than "maintenance." That's not really the most sexy word if you really want people to get behind it. Furthermore it just suggests that the work is keeping something as good as it was from the beginning. Filling in holes, giving it a coat of paint every now and then. What it really should be called is "refinement." The innovation ends up being incr…

But refinement doesn't seem accurate, as it implies that there are changes being made, while this is not necessarily the case.

Re: Let’s Get Excited About Maintenance

#100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The parent to my original post is an example of exigology. Paraphrasing: "My code will be gone next year, so I don't care about code style"

The SMBC comic mocks the people for not being self-aware enough to realize that they are causing their own problem by being apathetic. > "I'm not good at this because I don't try, so I won't try" > "Girls don't like me because I have bad hygiene, so why should I bother with hygiene?" etc. This would only apply to what I wrote if my code was disappearing because it's not formatted to pass a linter. You and I both know…

> code quality is not the same thing as code style.

I did misparaphrase you. My apologies for that. Fixed.

But as for the other argument, I think the comic's examples and your case represent feedback loops in which two factors are both cause and consequence of each other.

I believe you that you started not caring about code style after you noticed your code tends not to last. Similarly, life was short already before bacon existed. Would you agree that your code is more likely to dissapper now that you don't care about style?

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