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MPC-HC v1.7.13 is released and farewell

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Re: MPC-HC v1.7.13 is released and farewell

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As an aside, I got a $60 Xiaomi Mi box and love it. It has Netflix, runs Android and is a Chromecast client (you can send videos to it). It's about the same price as a Chromecast for a ton more functionality, I highly recommend it. I haven't tried the Roku/Fire etc though, so they may be good too.

I wonder if its software will still be supported two years from now.

Will Roku software still be updated two years from now?

Re: MPC-HC v1.7.13 is released and farewell

#92
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VLC in a nutshell: Rebuilding fonts... Fortunately, I believe MPC-HC will still likely be updated if necessary, or forked and updated if need be. I know I haven't updated mine in years and haven't had any problems.

> VLC in a nutshell: Rebuilding fonts... I wonder if this is still a problem (I haven't used VLC in a while.) That message box is shown when fontconfig rebuilds its font cache, but libass has been able to run without fontconfig since 0.13.0 (October 2015.) I guess it depends on whether the current release version of VLC still needs it.

It happened to me on the current Windows version just a few days ago. But it doesn't seem to happen as often as in the past.

Re: MPC-HC v1.7.13 is released and farewell

#94

Farewell old friend. For those looking for an alternative: you should try MPV. It's a video player for the geeks/hackers https://mpv.io/manual/stable/

You can't use madVR with mpv.io which is a deal breaker for many (better scaling algorithms, better dithering, display calibration with 3DLUT, HDR conversion/processing and so on).

That's misleading. You can't use madVR with mpv, but that doesn't mean you can't have high quality scaling and dithering. madVR has NGU, which mpv doesn't have, and it has error-diffusion dithering, which mpv doesn't have, so if you need those, the lack of madVR support could be a deal breaker, but the difference in quality between those algorithms and the ones in mpv is fairly subjective. I feel like all the trendy super-resolution algorithms introduce too many ringing, aliasing and strange watercolour-like artefacts, so I much prefer mpv's EWA Lanczos filter, though if you want, there are a number of super-res algorithms available as mpv user-shaders, including SSimSuperRes and NNEDI3. See: https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/wiki/User-Scripts#pixel-sh...

mpv supports display calibration and HDR conversion as well. You can load a 3DLUT for display calibration if you want, but for mpv, you would more likely load an ICC profile and have it generate the correct LUT automatically. You can even just let it pick up the ICC profile configured in the operating system. As for HDR, there are a number of built-in tone mapping algorithms: https://mpv.io/manual/master/#options-hdr-tone-mapping

Re: MPC-HC v1.7.13 is released and farewell

#95

MPC-HC was always my go-to. Starts up instantly and the performance was always superb, much better than VLC in seeking. I don't know what it is, but more often than not, VLC pauses for a moment when seeking to a random part of the file, while MPC-HC has always been instant. I suppose I'll try out MPV.

With some malformed files I have notice that VLC has a tendency to handle it when mplayer did not, so I always assumed that the delay in VLC is to more complex seeking that sacrifice performance for robustness.

I haven't used MPV enough to see if this case is still true.

Re: MPC-HC v1.7.13 is released and farewell

#96
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I wonder if its software will still be supported two years from now.

Will Roku software still be updated two years from now?

My 2 year-old Roku is on the same OS version as my 1 month-old one. Only difference I ever notice is that the new one is a little bit faster / more responsive.

Re: MPC-HC v1.7.13 is released and farewell

#97
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Farewell old friend. For those looking for an alternative: you should try MPV. It's a video player for the geeks/hackers https://mpv.io/manual/stable/

Does it have a "Download subtitles" function, as in MPC-HC?

mpv is barebones so it doesn't, but you can integrate Subliminal (https://github.com/Diaoul/subliminal) to it.

Re: MPC-HC v1.7.13 is released and farewell

#98
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MPC-HC is already so fast, I doubt that claim is even true. I just double-clocked on a video file after a cold boot, the UI shows up almost instantly, and the playback starts after around a second.

To all those asking why BE? It really has NOTHING to do with speed. To simply put, BE was well maintained and continuous bug fixing. From my perspective HC has seen the writing on the wall ever since BE forked. Not only does it look better, it plays files better then HC by default. Not sure HC has improved since then, back in the day BE would handle AVI, rmvb, WMV, much better without the need of fiddling around with…

The writing for MPC-HC was on the wall a lot longer than when MPC-BE was forked. There's no future for a player that's not cross-platform, case-in-point:

> MPC-BE is the only thing I really miss on Mac.

And HC definitely improved after BE was forked. While BE chose to keep maintaining their own decoding filters the HC team chose to completely switch to an internal build of LAV Filters. MPC-HC also had a lot of performance improvements to the internal subtitle renderer.

MPC-BE regularly backported these improvements though, so the fact that MPC-HC died also affects MPC-BE.

Re: MPC-HC v1.7.13 is released and farewell

#99

I've used MPC for quite a while in the past, but have since moved to https://potplayer.daum.net/ It's super feature rich, with (in my opinion) a much nice interface than e.g. VLC.

If you don't mind sending telemetry data to their HQ in Korea then sure it's a nice media player.

Article 5 (Collection and Use of Data and Other Information)

(1) Daum may collect and use data from the computer of Users as a part of its product support services that are provided to Users in connection with the Software. Data that may be collected solely include the type of computer and type of operating system used on the computer, memory capacity, type of graphic card, Directx version, media player version, type of webcam and TV reception card.

(2) Daum will use the above collected data only for the purpose of improving the Software or providing service or technology that is suitable to the user environment of the User and will not use such data for any other purposes.

Re: MPC-HC v1.7.13 is released and farewell

#100

Farewell old friend. For those looking for an alternative: you should try MPV. It's a video player for the geeks/hackers https://mpv.io/manual/stable/

As a former MPC-HC developer, I consider MPV the spiritual successor.

There's also mpc-qt (https://github.com/cmdrkotori/mpc-qt) that tries to mimic MPC-HC features.

It uses libmpv though.

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