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Re: Seeing AI for iOS

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Post by pmarreck »

ClassyJacket wrote: post #88
pmarreck wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So a single app developer experienced unknown delays and attributed that to the fact that they launched on Android first... How's that anecdotal evidence going?

I'm sure the part about Apple punishing you for launching on Android first is rubbish, but the second claim is true - App Store rules are that you can't mention the word 'Android'. Rule 2.3.1: "don’t include names, icons, or imagery of other mobile platforms in your app or metadata" And here is a case where they actually enforced it: http://bgr.com/2015/05/21/app-store-rejection-android-ios/

OK so one datapoint! But not to the most controversial claim.

Re: Seeing AI for iOS

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Post by rainbowmverse »

pmarreck wrote: post #83
ezequiel-garzon wrote: post #38

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Also on the technical side, the fact that Microsoft (Microsoft!) is releasing an iOS-only app, even if it comes from its research department, is maybe more shocking than its open-source releases of late. Who are you, Microsoft?!

Didn't they release an iOS-only photo app years ago that was also very clever? IIRC it collated thousands of user photos of a single piece of architecture into a 3D model or something Edit: Just checked App Store. Microsoft has literally hundreds of apps on there. You should probably go look. But I can't find the app I'm talking about lol EDIT 2: Found a story on it! 11 years ago!! https://arstechnica.com/uncategoriz…

Sometimes the good bits of their research projects get rolled into others. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/product/computation...

Re: Seeing AI for iOS

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Post by reitanqild »

pmarreck wrote: post #84
reitanqild wrote: post #65

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Also rumours has it that Apple punishes you in the app store if you launch on Android first.

I just used my best google-fu and can find no evidence for this. If you're going to make controversial claims like that in the future, include a link to the evidence or you will mostly just end up spreading FUD.

Upvoted you. Couldn't find it either. Think it was in a checklist I read once.

Re: Seeing AI for iOS

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Post by mekazu »

allover wrote: post #74
bostand wrote: post #72

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Its not. Developers of a famous podcast app have a number of long posts about this subject. Also, Apple will ban your app if it has the word "android" anywhere in it.

> Developers of a famous podcast app have a number of long posts about this subject. Do you have a link?

Nope, the company is called shifty jelly. They've still got other iOS apps though so it wouldn't surprise if they were taken down.

Re: Seeing AI for iOS

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Post by kiliankoe »

Sharlin wrote: post #76
kiliankoe wrote: post #48

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I really hope not. I'm not saying localization isn't important, but holding back an English app because of this is something I don't understand. A huge part of the world speaks English just fine. Release first, localize later if it's not possible right away. This is probably not the case here, but I hate it when devs forget that the US isn't the entire world that they're releasing their app to.

It's not about just language, of course. Otherwise "localization" would be called "translation". But a machine vision AI app isn't very useful if it cannot recognize local signs, brands, whatever, or pronounce them correctly. It would be simply bad publicity.

You're absolutely right, I dismissed this far too early and didn't think far enough for an app like this. Thanks for clearing that up.

Re: Seeing AI for iOS

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Post by pjmlp »

achamayou wrote: post #62
ezequiel-garzon wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also on the technical side, the fact that Microsoft (Microsoft!) is releasing an iOS-only app, even if it comes from its research department, is maybe more shocking than its open-source releases of late. Who are you, Microsoft?!

With Windows Phone out of the picture, it's either that or Android. iOS is probably an easier first target (less hardware and software variety).

It also helps that iOS is more welcoming to C++ devs than Android, although they might be using something else like Xamarin.

Re: Seeing AI for iOS

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Post by pmarreck »

reitanqild wrote: post #93
pmarreck wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just used my best google-fu and can find no evidence for this. If you're going to make controversial claims like that in the future, include a link to the evidence or you will mostly just end up spreading FUD.

Upvoted you. Couldn't find it either. Think it was in a checklist I read once.

It's missing because Apple took it down wherever it was, obviously.

/conspiracyfallacysarcasm :)

Re: Seeing AI for iOS

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Post by pmarreck »

rainbowmverse wrote: post #92
pmarreck wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Didn't they release an iOS-only photo app years ago that was also very clever? IIRC it collated thousands of user photos of a single piece of architecture into a 3D model or something Edit: Just checked App Store. Microsoft has literally hundreds of apps on there. You should probably go look. But I can't find the app I'm talking about lol EDIT 2: Found a story on it! 11 years ago!! https://arstechnica.com/uncategoriz…

Sometimes the good bits of their research projects get rolled into others. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/product/computation...

Nice.

Found a 10 year old demo of PhotoSynth here: https://www.ted.com/talks/blaise_aguera_y_arcas_demos_photos...

Re: Seeing AI for iOS

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Post by killerpopiller »

seeingai wrote: post #20
dcw303 wrote: post #6

US App Store only at this stage it seems. Pity, I'd like to try this. edit: I'm wrong. it's in other stores as well, but not in the Australian app store, which is the one that I tried.

For the launch, its available in USA, Canada, India, New Zealand, Singapore and Hong Kong. And gradually, should be available in more countries. Anirudh from Seeing AI team

make it available for other countries as well in a machine 'Language' learning mode. The seeing crowd could train it the local terms, pointing at the fridge and dictating Kühlschrank. This would be a cool project to help others. I would enjoy doing that, maybe gamify it.

Re: Seeing AI for iOS

#100

Post by allover »

mekazu wrote: post #94
allover wrote: post #74

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> Developers of a famous podcast app have a number of long posts about this subject. Do you have a link?

Nope, the company is called shifty jelly. They've still got other iOS apps though so it wouldn't surprise if they were taken down.

Ah the company behind Pocket Casts (love that app). Well I searched through their blog and could only find Amazon App Store drama.

I'm going to assume the original statement is FUD as accused. It does seem incredibly unlikely a dev could draw such a link even if Apple were doing that kind of penalisation (which makes literally no sense to me).

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