If you're going to comment about the "Chinese takeover" please take 2 minutes to at least read the first paragraph https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Peril 'The Yellow Peril (also Yellow Terror and Yellow Spectre) is a racist color-metaphor that is integral to the xenophobic theory of colonialism: that the peoples of East Asia are a danger to the Western world. As a psycho-cultural perception of menace from the Eas…
China may match or beat America in AI
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Re: China may match or beat America in AI
#92Here I was looking for the Dr. Strangelove equivalent of the "AI Gap" :-) Given that in the next four years it is likely that more than half of the PhDs awarded by top US schools are awarded to foreign nationals[1], and our current government policy is to restrict immigration as much as possible, we are on a path to insuring that soon the world will have a much better pool of talent to draw on to do the research than…
Not to sound like an anti-intellectual, but it could be a mistake to assume that innovation comes from academia. Nassim Nicholas Taleb has a convincing chapter (I think it is Chapter 13: Lecturing Birds to Fly) in his book "Antifragile" about this very thing. Then there are cultural differences that could be at play concerning innovation. It is a general observation that east asian cultures tend to suppress risk-taki…
It's not a general observation. It is an idea promoted by westerners to make them feel superior. Creative, innovative thinking is not the norm anywhere. Everyone who thinks new thoughts is an outlier by definition, in every society.
Re: China may match or beat America in AI
#93Here I was looking for the Dr. Strangelove equivalent of the "AI Gap" :-) Given that in the next four years it is likely that more than half of the PhDs awarded by top US schools are awarded to foreign nationals[1], and our current government policy is to restrict immigration as much as possible, we are on a path to insuring that soon the world will have a much better pool of talent to draw on to do the research than…
Not to sound like an anti-intellectual, but it could be a mistake to assume that innovation comes from academia. Nassim Nicholas Taleb has a convincing chapter (I think it is Chapter 13: Lecturing Birds to Fly) in his book "Antifragile" about this very thing. Then there are cultural differences that could be at play concerning innovation. It is a general observation that east asian cultures tend to suppress risk-taki…
It's about environments that are able to support new ventures in businesses, technology, and what have you. China is increasingly such an environment.
Re: China may match or beat America in AI
#94Here I was looking for the Dr. Strangelove equivalent of the "AI Gap" :-) Given that in the next four years it is likely that more than half of the PhDs awarded by top US schools are awarded to foreign nationals[1], and our current government policy is to restrict immigration as much as possible, we are on a path to insuring that soon the world will have a much better pool of talent to draw on to do the research than…
Immigration is not the solution. Do you have any idea how restrictive China is on immigration?
Re: China may match or beat America in AI
#95Re: China may match or beat America in AI
#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
To be fair, China is a AI powerhouse in its own right. China is investing a lot of its money domestically on this problem as well. Lots of legitimate papers come from purely Chinese teams. ResNet was developed by a purely Chinese team. A lot of very important open source machine learning software out there is written almost entirely by Chinese nationals. It's important to note this because shutting down Silicon Valle…
> ResNet was developed by a purely Chinese team. And by luck. If they didn't do it, someone else would have done it, whether it be US, UK, or Canada. Proof? Look at the developments and publications from that same team. There are not consistent breakthroughs. This is similar to the stock market and investors. Someone will get lucky and win, but unless they can do it consistently, it's luck.
Re: China may match or beat America in AI
#97Chinese Government is all over the Silicon Valley these days trying to get into US AI developments, using all sorts of nefarious tricks. A case in point. There is a conference, SYNC 2017, in Computer History Museum tomorrow (July 14th), organized by Pingwest, which itself seems like a Chinese Gov. front if you look at the team. They have several good speakers, and some Chinese, Gov fronted, fake VC types. Till 2 days…
Would love for the down voters to explain why.
> reports in NYTimes and other reputable media
IIRC POTUS calls that fake news?
Re: China may match or beat America in AI
#98That means when AI hits a wall like the "AI Winter" of the 1980's, China will be stuck with a big bill as the bubble pops all over their faces.
I have worked in the field of AI since the early 1980s, and experienced the 'AI winter' which was a natural reaction to over-hyping of technologies like expert systems that required too much manual effort to write and maintain.
Deep learning applications are developed with less manual effort and produce much more value.
The 'AI world' is very different now than in the 1980s.
Re: China may match or beat America in AI
#99Chinese Government is all over the Silicon Valley these days trying to get into US AI developments, using all sorts of nefarious tricks. A case in point. There is a conference, SYNC 2017, in Computer History Museum tomorrow (July 14th), organized by Pingwest, which itself seems like a Chinese Gov. front if you look at the team. They have several good speakers, and some Chinese, Gov fronted, fake VC types. Till 2 days…
From what I know we don't have government background or funding. PingWest is a privately owned and funded media company in China. We run one of the most influential tech blogs there. Our US team organize SYNC events every year in the Valley and some pop up SYNC events elsewhere.
We changed the title simply because it fits the event and our speakers lineup better.
Re: China may match or beat America in AI
#100Of course they will. Americans have turned on each other in their period of greatest economic vulnerability, basically self-destructing while the Chinese government gladly hands out 5x your research grant from elsewhere to do that research in China. America's running on desirability to high-skill immigrants and existing ecosystems, both of which are fading fast. NIH is halving budgets while China is multiplying them…
A little off topic: here in the USA, every medium and large company seems to be morphing into an 'AI company' which I think is generally a good thing since individually they can all take advantage of control over their own application stacks and data sources. Many people concentrate on the advantages of huge companies like Google/Microsoft/Facebook in AI development, but there is plenty of opportunity for smaller companies to enhance their own systems with machine learning.