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Blood from young animals can revitalise old ones

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>wight loss technique wight

Don't assume English is everyone's first language. It happens to be mine, but don't assume everyone is sober either!

Speaking of sobriety, another benefit for donors is the option to get very drunk very cheaply immediately after donating. Disclaimer: I am not a doctor and this is not medical advice.

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That's the only likely way to make money for a legit therapeutic company, but before we have the technology to manufacture young blood cheaply and massively, I think kidnapping people and forcing them to give their blood can be done cheaply and be cost effective for a mafia. I mean, that's already what they do with sex workers

Rich people may think twice about injecting "shady" blood into their veins though. I mean, many seem fine to do it with intravenous drugs but at least you won't find AIDS-laced heroin. I think it might make more sense for super rich people to pay people directly to give them their blood, which is morally questionable but maybe not particularly worse than, say, paying for a surrogate mother? It sounds a lot less traum…

I don't think there's any reason one could not lace heroin with AIDS, it just would not reflect well on a dealer. That said, it would likely require intent (or really bizarre circumstances). With blood, it could much more easily happen, you're right.

Many young people already do give up their blood for a pretty cheap price, so I don't think there's any reason for this to become a black market thing.

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This submarine story has been in the news for awhile. From what I can gather this transfusion has only worked in animals. Also, there is a company that is performing these transfusions for a fee. This article and other is designed to make you feel the narrative "rich people are like vampires ". When you think about what you are reading it really "rich people are having transfusions that may have no medical benefit. Also, none of these articles state that blood has a shelf life. If it isn't used then it is thrown away. For example there is usually a large amount of blood donations that occur when there is a terrorist attack . Most of the blood is discarded because they don't have enough time to distribute it correctly. In effect they are buying garbage.

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Why kidnap? Why not just offer $20 per pint and sell it for $200?

Blood banks stopped paying for blood because it attracted the wrong customers, those strapped for cash rather than the idealistic types. As a result quality suffered. Between hospitals blood is bought and sold at the price you mention. Radiolab had an episode about this some time ago.

Sperm banks manage to get very high quality, sanitary sperm despite many people doing it for the cash. The trick is to have recurrent donors you can test regularly, and to quarantine samples until they can be cleared in bulk.

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>wight loss technique wight

Don't assume English is everyone's first language. It happens to be mine, but don't assume everyone is sober either!

I just thought it was funnily relevant. You know, drink enough blood and you just might turn into wight...

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I wouldn't be quite so worried. If the effects truly do end up being due to soluble signalling factors in the younger blood (and not immune cell implantation or some other physiologic quirk of the cross-wired parabiosis experimental setup that won't transfer to non-inbred humans) then those factors will be synthesized in bioreactors and made into a synthetic plasma product - that's also the only likely way to make mo…

That's the only likely way to make money for a legit therapeutic company, but before we have the technology to manufacture young blood cheaply and massively, I think kidnapping people and forcing them to give their blood can be done cheaply and be cost effective for a mafia. I mean, that's already what they do with sex workers

There's also a black market for stolen organs ? (or did I dream that?)

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Come on. Let's start with a positive comment. (I think this is one cause of our technological stagnation. Every article about a new technology has a comment like this at the top.)

What technological stagnation? > Through our scientific and technological genius we’ve made of this world a neighborhood. And now through our moral and ethical commitment we must make of it a brotherhood. We must all learn to live together as brothers—or we will all perish together as fools. -- Martin Luther King Every time someone makes a comment indicating a modicum of social progress, there's a response like yours…

Doesn't contribute? Who are you kidding? At least answer which technological stagnation you were referring to. You make the claim, follow it up, but don't blame me for paying the attention you so sorely lack.

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that is until the market is opened up and regulated. with so many young people around realizing that a thing they constantly produce for free is worth something - there will be no incentive to go through the criminal path. also worth mentioning that this could positively impact young population health as there is now clear monetary incentive to keep your blood healthy. it's a win all around, regulators just have to b…

Blood is worth a lot, people know that already, and illegal blood farming exists in some countries. But paying for blood increases the risk of people lying about the quality of their blood, which is why the administration doesn't incentivize blood donations. Your argument about criminality is very wrong. Maybe I speak for myself, but I'd much rather be a criminal than a professional blood donor. People are not crimin…

Back in college I donated sperm for money. It's not like I was forced into it; it was just nice to have an extra source of income besides my student job.

This also enables sperm banks to retain recurrent donors, which means they can afford to do very rigorous testing amortized over several dozen sperm samples. DNA screening, urine tests, blood tests, etc. That wouldn't be viable under the blood donation model. I've donated blood 5 or 6 times but I doubt even that's enough to make it worth the kind of testing they did on me as a sperm donor.

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Blood is worth a lot, people know that already, and illegal blood farming exists in some countries. But paying for blood increases the risk of people lying about the quality of their blood, which is why the administration doesn't incentivize blood donations. Your argument about criminality is very wrong. Maybe I speak for myself, but I'd much rather be a criminal than a professional blood donor. People are not crimin…

In the US it's already legal to sell plasma, semen, eggs, bone marrow , breast milk, and rent wombs as a surrogate [0]. The legality of selling blood would not eliminate donations much like the ability to sell clothing does not eliminate clothing donation. Considering that there are negatives to selling blood (e.g. time, marginal risk, inconvenience, etc) I think some form of compensation is fair and would only incre…

>rent wombs as a surrogate

If the tenant stops paying does the baby get delivered prematurely?

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