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Tesla's Long-Awaited, Lower-Priced Model 3 to Arrive Friday

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Re: Tesla's Long-Awaited, Lower-Priced Model 3 to Arrive Friday

#91
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> Musk also tweeted that production would increase "exponentially," with 100 cars in August, more than 1,500 in September and 20,000 per month in December. Finally, someone who says things will grow exponentially and actually means it!

I just worry how many cars they'll be producing in 5 years time.

Forget global warming, the real danger is the entire Earth being turned into paperclips^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H Model 3s.

Re: Tesla's Long-Awaited, Lower-Priced Model 3 to Arrive Friday

#92
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also curious about this. Tesla has the ability to to hoard millions of hours of driving experience per year. Data seems to trump all in ML applications so far and Tesla definitely has the most available to harvest. At the same time, Tesla is primarily video based and it is likely quite difficult to call home with gigabytes of video every night.

That's pretty clearly part of the long term play

And I hope we can end this stuff where companies take training data produced by civilians for free, and then keep it secret.

If you use data given to you by your users, you should have to release it into the public domain.

Re: Tesla's Long-Awaited, Lower-Priced Model 3 to Arrive Friday

#93
post #6

> Musk also tweeted that production would increase "exponentially," with 100 cars in August, more than 1,500 in September and 20,000 per month in December. Finally, someone who says things will grow exponentially and actually means it!

This is ACTUALLY NOT exponential.

1st month: factor of 15 (100->1500) 2nd+3rd month: factor of 13.333/2 =6.6 (1500->20000)

This is logarithmic, growth is slowing down rapidly.

Re: Tesla's Long-Awaited, Lower-Priced Model 3 to Arrive Friday

#94
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I just wonder, how much bandwidth these cars send home (Tesla HQ) as learning data.

Also curious about this. Tesla has the ability to to hoard millions of hours of driving experience per year. Data seems to trump all in ML applications so far and Tesla definitely has the most available to harvest. At the same time, Tesla is primarily video based and it is likely quite difficult to call home with gigabytes of video every night.

According to this link[0] posted above:

"Of course, the bandwidth varies based on what network it’s being sent from – meaning that some owners can track their home network, but not the data sent from the in-car cellular connection, which is covered by Tesla and managed by AT&T in the US."

[0]https://electrek.co/2017/06/14/tesla-autopilot-data-floodgat...

Re: Tesla's Long-Awaited, Lower-Priced Model 3 to Arrive Friday

#95
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Yes, I live in Germany. I have the same discussion roughly every month on HN[1]. No I'm not a reckless driver, I'm a family father that tries his best to drive safely. Just going 120km/h on the Autobahn in Germany is often times not the safest way. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14423002

You conjure a scenario where you're behind an unsafe driver who's going 130 km/h on the center lane, and you want to overtake him to get some distance from the source of danger. Can't do this if your car is only capable of driving at up to 130-140 km/h, true. The obvious -- and also the safest, in any car -- solution: just slow down. Switch to the right lane which invariably runs at around 80 to 90 km/h. Your nemesis…

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Re: Tesla's Long-Awaited, Lower-Priced Model 3 to Arrive Friday

#96
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It's arriving Friday and they still haven't released official photos of the interior nor have any options configurations. Really odd way to launch a vehicle. https://www.tesla.com/model3

The first model 3's won't have any extra options, Musk made that clear a while ago by discussing the wrong release of the X with too many options that ended up backing up the deliveries.

But they haven't even officially shown off the interior at all. The car hasn't been fully shown, even in its one configuration.

Re: Tesla's Long-Awaited, Lower-Priced Model 3 to Arrive Friday

#97

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I don't think any car I've ever owned has spent more than a minute or two at its top rated speed. Even acceleration is only important up to a minimum to get along in traffic. Even in Germany where cars are allowed to go pretty quick in some areas hardly any of them go at or near their rated top speed.

True, because it takes long to actually get to that speed. But imagine if you'd like to drive 160 km/h on the highway all the time, you probably need a car that has a rated top speed of at least 180 km/h.

Then you would also buy a high end car. Model S, perhaps??

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#98
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True, because it takes long to actually get to that speed. But imagine if you'd like to drive 160 km/h on the highway all the time, you probably need a car that has a rated top speed of at least 180 km/h.

Then you would also buy a high end car. Model S, perhaps??

An 125HP car of normal weight (on American landbarge or anything) surpasses 180km/h and can easily maintain a cruising speed of 160km/h with tolerable noise, but mediocre fuel consumption.

Re: Tesla's Long-Awaited, Lower-Priced Model 3 to Arrive Friday

#99
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Most of the (gas engine) cars sold today can go 180.

Most of the high end cars will go 225 or 249 (legal limit enforced by the engine firmware, also related to what the tires the car is sold standard with can handle). A small car doing 180 will not live long.

You'd be surprised, here in the poorer European countries where high-power engines are taxed, and speed limit enforcement lax, you constantly see 100HP sedans with 4 people and luggage cruising the highways above 150km/h. Engines do not really suffer since you're not going flat-out all the time

Re: Tesla's Long-Awaited, Lower-Priced Model 3 to Arrive Friday

#100

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I do live in Germany, and it is a concern for me. The VW e-up costs 22k EUR and has a top speed of 130 km/h, the BMW i3 full electric version w/o range extender costs about 35k EUR and has a top speed of 150 km/h. This performance would be fine if I bought a car under 10k EUR but not for this price.

Just adding more data: The 2017 Volt (Opel Ampera-e) has a top speed of about 160 km/h / 100 mph for 35k EUR, $33k USD Pretty sure the Model 3 can acheive this, if not be faster, since this is just the norm and not 'fast'.

Same here, I do bursts of 120-130kmh highway driving every day and occasionally go higher.

But I usually switch into Hold mode (turns on the combustion engine) so I don't waste too much battery.

To be honest, the extra torque of an electric engine makes slow speeds seem faster. When I was in my diesel VW I found myself at 140-150km/h quite often by accident. In the Volt I'm comfortable going slower because it "feels" faster somehow.

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