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The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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Imgur recently started doing something really annoying on their mobile site. If you keep scrolling past the picture you were linked to, it shows a bunch of other pictures that were not posted by the person who posted the first picture. These extra pictures seem to be generally in the same category as the picture that was meant to be linked to, so if the original picture is a slightly risque photo, the photos that fol…

Is there an equivalent to "every program expands to read email" for web services? Because just about every image hosting service seems to go down this feature creep route.

No independent image hosting service can scale because of pricing. It gets too expensive and users will never pay for it so they rely on ads + annoying ways to get ad revenue.

Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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Is there an equivalent to "every program expands to read email" for web services? Because just about every image hosting service seems to go down this feature creep route.

It's because image hosting is a nothing business. It's basically one step up from serving text in the list of bread-and-butter internet functions. Sure, there's some complexity in doing it at scale, but it doesn't actually need to be done at scale to be done easily. 50 different small image hosts is as good as one big one from the perspective of end users. As a result, it's /really/ hard to get people to pay for it,…

funny how nobody wants to pay for bread and butter functionality, and yet the internet survives on such bread and butter.

Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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post #27

Imgur recently started doing something really annoying on their mobile site. If you keep scrolling past the picture you were linked to, it shows a bunch of other pictures that were not posted by the person who posted the first picture. These extra pictures seem to be generally in the same category as the picture that was meant to be linked to, so if the original picture is a slightly risque photo, the photos that fol…

They do it even on normal website. Iv seen a couple of cases of twitch streamers showing viewer submitted fanart (pre screened), and the MOST VIRAL IMAGES sidebar had some almost pron 'click to look at tits' suggestions :/

Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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Why on earth would Reddit want to add a massive expense (image hosting) at a time that they're already hemorrhaging money? Especially since imgur was still a fairly adequate host for the site. Reddit's image hosting seems like burning money for nothing. Not to mention the Reddit image URLs are horrifying. I upload stuff to imgur just for the nice, short URLs.

> I upload stuff to imgur just for the nice, short URLs. genuinely curious, why is that important? is it common to memorize the URLs instead of copying and pasting?

When I want to share an image over chat with a friend, the long, odd looking reddit image urls disrupt the natural flow. It's like virtually slapping someone on the face. A nice, short and sweet URL is much nicer in text conversations.

Also, being a developer and security conscious, I inspect URLs before I click on them. The longer they are, the more frustrated I get examining them.

Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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As it turns out, it's really hard to monetize an S3 bucket at scale.

What if they moved to their own infrastructure? I imagine being an image hosting service it would be cheaper in the long run, although I have no idea by how much and if it would make sense all things considered.

Unsplash wrote a nice piece last year on how much it cost their site to run.

https://crew.co/blog/what-does-unsplash-cost/

Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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This is why you have be careful when it comes to starting a business or service that's dependent on another to keep going.

Because it's very easy for the 'host' company to take your idea, undercut it and 'force' you out of business. Or to make changes that completely kill your product or service/screw up your marketing strategy.

It's a risk you have to take with a business so dependent on another particular company or site.

Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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That's some strong words. Imgur wasn't a parasite, it was offering a service that Reddit didn't offer but we needed. Yes Imgur was quite dependent on Reddit at the beginning but now Imgur has its own community and the two are quite different. If you look at the numbers, after the beta Imgur was starting to grow again. It was a hit yes, but not an exodus.

Edit: Whoops! I was definitely wrong here. It was absolutely a parasite. It would not have survived to grow to the size it did without Reddit. Parasites can offer a beneficial service to the host but cannot live without it. It has since evolved into something possibly capable of existing on its own but only time will tell. My guess is it lives for a few more years at best.

That's symbiosis.

Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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post #27

Imgur recently started doing something really annoying on their mobile site. If you keep scrolling past the picture you were linked to, it shows a bunch of other pictures that were not posted by the person who posted the first picture. These extra pictures seem to be generally in the same category as the picture that was meant to be linked to, so if the original picture is a slightly risque photo, the photos that fol…

The most offensive feature is how it tricks novice or unsuspecting users into "sharing" their just uploaded image to the "Imgur community". It's a big green button after the upload. If you click it, not only is your image now public but you'll be ridiculed by imgurs army of sexist unemployed neckbeards that they refer to as "community".

It's a shame, because for the first two months the community was nice.

Re: The Decline of Imgur on Reddit and the Rise of Reddit's Native Image Hosting

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's some strong words. Imgur wasn't a parasite, it was offering a service that Reddit didn't offer but we needed. Yes Imgur was quite dependent on Reddit at the beginning but now Imgur has its own community and the two are quite different. If you look at the numbers, after the beta Imgur was starting to grow again. It was a hit yes, but not an exodus.

Edit: Whoops! I was definitely wrong here. It was absolutely a parasite. It would not have survived to grow to the size it did without Reddit. Parasites can offer a beneficial service to the host but cannot live without it. It has since evolved into something possibly capable of existing on its own but only time will tell. My guess is it lives for a few more years at best.

That's absolutely incorrect. In this case, since the relationship was mutually beneficial it's literally called mutualism. It does not require that both parties require the relationship to survive.

Parasitism is when one party benefits while the other is harmed.

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