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CEOs Want Their Offices Back

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Re: CEOs Want Their Offices Back

#91
CEOs also typically believe they are the only resource that isn't replaceable or outsource-able. But, if they're good at what they do, and the buck truly stops with them... I'm fine with that level of responsibility vs benefit. This is mostly because I imagine the CEO doing a bunch of jobs that I do not _want_ to do.

I like popping on my headphones and going to town... but I'll admit, distractions often overcome even my headphones. That's where working from home comes in.

Re: CEOs Want Their Offices Back

#92
Is there a HN facility where I could just block these pay-walled articles? I have nothing against someone trying to make a buck, but there is insignificant chance that I will 'subscribe' or login to read a wsj article. I just want to save me some time and wsj some bandwidth.

OK maybe I just need to learn to look at the link.

Re: CEOs Want Their Offices Back

#93

Theory: open space fosters communication, because you can easily engage in discussion with others. Reality: everybody is sitting with their headphones on. The only way to get their attention is via Slack or by throwing objects at them.

In the academia, where good communication and idea sharing are essential, there are no open offices. Said communication happens where it ought to be: in rec room or cafeteria.

I thought Academics jealousy hoarded ideas, carefully ensuring that they weren't stolen by competing researchers — especially in the same department.

Re: CEOs Want Their Offices Back

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The mechanical keyboard people in open offices bother me.

I recently got one and I admit it's really loud. But this shouldn't be an issue in a decent workplace. I have several guys near me who have loud voices and talk a lot. That's worse than a loud keyboard. Open office plans are the problem, not keyboards or loud people.

I am distracted by your loud keyboard. Frequently, I find myself wishing that you had a quiet keyboard like everyone else in the office. I am particularly irritated by the noise of your keyboard each morning when you write long emails or posts. When you are coding and there are frequent long breaks when you are thinking, it is not quite as distracting, but I still don't like it.

I agree with you that open office plans are the problem, but your keyboard makes that problem worse.

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#95

Individual contributors want private offices. Companies want "openness and collaboration". As I've been at WeWorks lately, I've noticed that they have all glass walls on the offices. This means that everybody has natural light and a sense of openness, but with a locking door and quiet. A more general question to people in such all-glass private offices - is it the best of both worlds? Or, is more privacy needed than…

The "downside" of private offices is that management doesn't know what you are doing in there. Lots of glass is an attempt to keep people connected and restrict the net surfing, game playing and time wasting that management fears will happen with private offices.

I think it's a reasonable trade-off. It attempts to give the best of both worlds, incorporating one advantage of open office spaces is there is more team motivation because it's more obvious if you are slacking.

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> The lofty building Jordan Hamad moved his tech-advisory firm into four years ago had the trappings of a startup idyll: open floor plan, polished concrete floors , custom-built communal tables. Decisions like this make me seriously question the whole idea that our economy is populated by rational actors. Obviously polished concrete floors are a terrible idea in an office. Even if you believe that open plan works, th…

Markets are efficient, not rational.

Markets are rational, but rationality is not simple.

Re: CEOs Want Their Offices Back

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> The lofty building Jordan Hamad moved his tech-advisory firm into four years ago had the trappings of a startup idyll: open floor plan, polished concrete floors , custom-built communal tables. Decisions like this make me seriously question the whole idea that our economy is populated by rational actors. Obviously polished concrete floors are a terrible idea in an office. Even if you believe that open plan works, th…

Depends on the other surfaces. If the ceiling is hang tiles, rough wood, or fabric panels, there is such thing as too well damped. Most rooms have a happy zone of about 30-60% reflectivity. More sounds like a bathroom, but less can be equally unnerving to people. Also, polished concrete is ubiq due to it being cheap, easy, and looking decent for a long time. That 4x4 carpet is not much better, and is the similarly pr…

One more benefit: polished concrete is way easier to deep clean.

Re: CEOs Want Their Offices Back

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Incidentally, Steelcase CEO Jim Hackett quoted in this article was just named CEO of Ford.

I think it's the previous CEO of Steelcase.

But also note that the Steelcase CEO's quotes are shaped to help sell their office pod systems. He's really not going to share his personal preferences, he's going to push their product.

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Markets are efficient, not rational.

I think it's clear they are more rational than efficient, and perfect at neither.

Markets != people, last I checked. If you're talking about the efficiency or rationality of a market, you're talking about some statistical measure of the market. If you're talking about one guy making a bad choice of flooring material, that's just one idiot.

Re: CEOs Want Their Offices Back

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I would take a 10% paycut to have a small office that fits 2 monitors, a filing cabinet and some pictures, rather then dealing with constant clattering of the guy behind me that decided converting a type writer into a digital keyboard was a good idea.

I have all that, and the best part is I don't need to commute. :) Working remotely is perfect.

Working remotely is probably the most-likely trend to supplant open offices. It doesn't cost the company any hard cash (like real offices would), and any productivity differences are nearly invisible, as they are with open offices.
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