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Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by wowreally »

imran3740 wrote: post #9

As with voat.co, who's gonna switch to this? Really the only people who switched over to Voat are the people who felt reddit was restricting their rights by posting controversial/hateful material on reddit. So it tends to be full of /pol-like MRAs/extreme right/alt-right users. Voten seems like it's trying to implement a more democratic system, but who will be pushed into switching over to that?

> hateful content

> MRAs > Alt-right

I'm sorry when did standing up for yourself become hateful? Every day a post from a real hate subreddit (/r/fuckthealtright, /r/esist, /r/twoxchromosomes) gets flooded with votes. The first page is nothing but toxic hate from the reddit accounts of true hatemongers like antifa.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by douchechill »

SquareWheel wrote: post #46
douchechill wrote: post #34

What do you mean? I for one not only had a chuckle over morning coffee, but, learned a few things about what I would do and not do for my own startup. That's my opinion on the original comment. My opinion on you is that your feelings are too sensitive and are muddying your rationale here. "What new platforms need, is less of this." I disagree, brutal honesty goes a long way.

Flagging this comment. Creating a throwaway named "douche chill" just to reply to somebody might as well be a direct insult.

It's a quote by Tobias Funke, a character from Arrested Development. You associated my username with the person I replied to. Technically you insulted them. I am flagging your comment about flagging my comment.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by Pxtl »

dkhenry wrote: post #15
imran3740 wrote: post #9

As with voat.co, who's gonna switch to this? Really the only people who switched over to Voat are the people who felt reddit was restricting their rights by posting controversial/hateful material on reddit. So it tends to be full of /pol-like MRAs/extreme right/alt-right users. Voten seems like it's trying to implement a more democratic system, but who will be pushed into switching over to that?

I dunno, with the recent changes reddit has been rolling out it is no longer a nice place to visit. There is so much hate and anger on the front page and so little good content. I could make an account, but it seems like they shadow ban everyone except for bots ( and not just for content, the last two times I was shadow banned it was because I logged in from my office IP address which they deemed was "gaming" votes )

I'd say the changes aren't responsible for the "hate and anger", but the growth and natural drift of users.

Undermoderated websites gradually radicalize as the heat and rage drives away moderates. 4chan is the extreme example of this, but Reddit's culture slowly lumbers in the same direction.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

#95

Post by joesb »

imran3740 wrote: post #9

As with voat.co, who's gonna switch to this? Really the only people who switched over to Voat are the people who felt reddit was restricting their rights by posting controversial/hateful material on reddit. So it tends to be full of /pol-like MRAs/extreme right/alt-right users. Voten seems like it's trying to implement a more democratic system, but who will be pushed into switching over to that?

Wow. I've just visited Voat. You were not kidding about their userbase.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

#96

Post by oridecon »

pvnick wrote: post #86

Best of luck. Reddit needs a good kick in the arse. Since shortly before Steve Huffman's (Spez) return, Reddit has adopted a policy of top-down content curation - banning controversial subreddits, changing the voting algorithm to dis-favor /r/the_donald, and most recently introducing /r/popular which is basically /r/all without that pesky /r/the_donald subreddit (ffs just man up and ban the group rather than pretendi…

Reddit is still bearable if you ignore the frontpage/popular subs. Nothing new but it got way worse the last couple of years.

- Look at this cute dog (drinking a bottle of Coca-Cola)

- I broke my leg this morning (while holding this can of Pepsi)

- Thread that shouldn't be on the frontpage (and the top comment is: "I bet he bought it at Walmart")

- Cool drone video (literally filming an ad)

- Photo of CharmingGuyMcAbs and/or CharmingGirlMcBoobs (Positive Reinforcement)

> I'm rooting for the disruptive upcomer

Doesn't look anything like Digg/MySpace days unless they somehow find a way to kill the "smaller" communities. Even the outbound click thing (or the new frontpage) didn't made any real impact from what I can tell.

But who knows, maybe you're right and someone comes up with a killer feature. Or an UI that doesn't suck so bad that you need a mandatory browser extension (that fries your CPU).

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

#97

Post by Karunamon »

Pxtl wrote: post #94
dkhenry wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dunno, with the recent changes reddit has been rolling out it is no longer a nice place to visit. There is so much hate and anger on the front page and so little good content. I could make an account, but it seems like they shadow ban everyone except for bots ( and not just for content, the last two times I was shadow banned it was because I logged in from my office IP address which they deemed was "gaming" votes )

I'd say the changes aren't responsible for the "hate and anger", but the growth and natural drift of users. Undermoderated websites gradually radicalize as the heat and rage drives away moderates. 4chan is the extreme example of this, but Reddit's culture slowly lumbers in the same direction.

That would apply if Reddit were any kind of unmoderated. Most of the communities showing up on the front page have a litany of exacting requirements for content, and sometimes, stuff winds up deleted anyways.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Post by mentalpiracy »

epmaybe wrote: post #87
hashkb wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a huge deal if you care about conversion. Anyone with web experience should know this.

Are you talking about converting people from Reddit to Voten? Maybe the point is that they want more people to actively contribute rather than just lurk? It could just be a different opinion on what a Reddit alternative could look like.

Lurking encourages user participation in the long run. Sure, a few people will be early adopters and begin contributing with enthusiasm, but a larger chunk of users prefer to consume content passively before making the decision that contributing is worth it for them.

Turning away your potential audience with an immediate demand to register is a great way to make sure your content isn't read.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

#100

Post by BoorishBears »

root_axis wrote: post #59
dkhenry wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dunno, with the recent changes reddit has been rolling out it is no longer a nice place to visit. There is so much hate and anger on the front page and so little good content. I could make an account, but it seems like they shadow ban everyone except for bots ( and not just for content, the last two times I was shadow banned it was because I logged in from my office IP address which they deemed was "gaming" votes )

> There is so much hate and anger on the front page and so little good content. Absurd hyperbole. I mean, all someone has to do is just look at the front-page to see that this is false. > it seems like they shadow ban everyone except for bots Also absurd hyperbole. You claim to have been banned because an admin or an algorithm incorrectly identified you as vote spamming, but I honestly don't believe it based on the r…

If I had a dollar for every time I saw something either overtly racist or inappropriate, or just plain braindead on the new front page that wouldn’t have shown up before I’d have several. It went from the “front page of (what’s popular on) the internet” to “front page of Reddit”. The only problem is below the surface Reddit has a lot of racist and inappropriate content. That’s why I rarely go anywhere but a few isolated development subreddits
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