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Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by adamjc »

arikfr wrote: post #56

If anyone is looking for an alternative that will probably be around for a long time, check out Todoist [1]: they are bootstrapped and profitable and been around for 10 years. In terms of product - it's as simple to use as Wunderlist, but does have a few extra features. And they are cross platform like Wunderlist. (I'm not affiliated with them. Just a happy user.) [1] https://todoist.com

I can second this, I've been a paying customer of Todoist for 2 years now, really really enjoy it. The 'natural language' style of setting dates is a nice touch.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by uncletaco »

blahblah12 wrote: post #89

It's not really killed. The original Sunrise, Accompli and Wunderlist teams still work at MSFT and they're working on their new apps respectively (Javier runs all of Outlook now). And Chad Fowler (former CTO of Wunderlist), and company are behind the pivot to To-Do. It's the exact same application. I've been beta testing it and it just has few additional features that will show up over time. It's really just a rebran…

“This, milord, is my family's axe. We have owned it for almost nine hundred years, see. Of course, sometimes it needed a new blade. And sometimes it has required a new handle, new designs on the metalwork, a little refreshing of the ornamentation . . . but is this not the nine hundred-year-old axe of my family? And because it has changed gently over time, it is still a pretty good axe, y'know. Pretty good.”

That's what I thought of when you said it's just a rebrand and a skin with a new back end. I mean lets call it what it is, a new app by the wunderlist team that's more oriented towards integration with Microsoft's existing suite of products. So yeah, Wunderlist is dead. Long live its spiritual successor.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

curiousgal wrote: post #10
campuscodi wrote: post #6

If any other news site would submit this article it would be marked as "blog spam" and replaced with the original announcement, which is here: https://blogs.office.com/2017/04/19/introducing-microsoft-to...

The bulk of moderation on HN is done by the users so if you see something that violates the rules flag it.

Is that true? Flagging for moderation is quite different to actually moderating - the moderators are free to ignore flags, users can't tell how flagged something is AFAICT.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by thirdsun »

arikfr wrote: post #56

If anyone is looking for an alternative that will probably be around for a long time, check out Todoist [1]: they are bootstrapped and profitable and been around for 10 years. In terms of product - it's as simple to use as Wunderlist, but does have a few extra features. And they are cross platform like Wunderlist. (I'm not affiliated with them. Just a happy user.) [1] https://todoist.com

Great and very complete alternative indeed. While I personally prefer Things, particularly now since version 3 is finally almost here, I was very tempted to migrate to Todoist on more than one occassion when Things / Cultured Code went rather silent in the past.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by _pmf_ »

blahblah12 wrote: post #89

It's not really killed. The original Sunrise, Accompli and Wunderlist teams still work at MSFT and they're working on their new apps respectively (Javier runs all of Outlook now). And Chad Fowler (former CTO of Wunderlist), and company are behind the pivot to To-Do. It's the exact same application. I've been beta testing it and it just has few additional features that will show up over time. It's really just a rebran…

> If anything, this crop of teams and ppl now run huge portions of Office

Thanks; I got a good laugh out of this one!

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by TuringNYC »

JoshTriplett wrote: post #81
TuringNYC wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was initially excited but this was a let-down: >>> The owner of www.todoist.com has configured their website improperly. To protect your information from being stolen, Firefox has not connected to this website. This site uses HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) to specify that Firefox may only connect to it securely. As a result, it is not possible to add an exception for this certificate.

Works here. Are you behind a broken proxy?

That's a relief. Wunderlist was wonderful for several reasons: - Windows client - iOS client - OSX/MacOS client - Auto-sync across everything

I hope the next thing has all these features, i hear Todoist does!

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by blahblah12 »

_pmf_ wrote: post #96
blahblah12 wrote: post #89

It's not really killed. The original Sunrise, Accompli and Wunderlist teams still work at MSFT and they're working on their new apps respectively (Javier runs all of Outlook now). And Chad Fowler (former CTO of Wunderlist), and company are behind the pivot to To-Do. It's the exact same application. I've been beta testing it and it just has few additional features that will show up over time. It's really just a rebran…

> If anything, this crop of teams and ppl now run huge portions of Office Thanks; I got a good laugh out of this one!

Working at the company, and in this division. I'm pretty sure I'm right about this. You should probably look at the titles of these people now. As in, directly reporting to Rajesh, and Satya. Fowler owns OneNote in addition to Wunderlist and all Education initatives. They're essentially at the highest levels of leadership in Office at the company. Try clicking on a linkedIn profile.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by gorbachev »

blahblah12 wrote: post #75
mcintyre1994 wrote: post #5

I wonder why they didn't just rebrand Wunderlist like they did Accompli (into mobile Outlook).

It's pretty much a replica of the original app. It's being developed by the same team that made Wunderlist as in Chad Fowler and company (he has a larger portfolio now). Most of these comments are probably unnecessary. The original team still works at MSFT The app is simply a rebrand that's trying to add additional features over time. https://www.linkedin.com/in/fowlerchad/

It is not a replica of Wunderlist. I'm a long time Wunderlist user, and Microsoft To-Do only implements a subset of the Wunderlist features. It's close, but several important organizational features, like sub tasks and nested lists/projects are not there.

Re: Microsoft to shut down Wunderlist in favor of its new app, To-Do

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Post by stymaar »

kuerbel wrote: post #65
roel_v wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not OP, but once you have a spec, it's much easier to code up. If you're designing while you're coding, you have to switch all the time between 'how should this work' and 'how do I build this'. Thinking and writing down how something should work, should always be the first step - regardless of whether you're on your own or in a big team. (before the obvious objection: exceptions are toy programs which you write to fi…

It was a hard lesson to learn, but "Weeks of programming can save you hours of planning" holds true in almost all cases.

I totally agree with this statement, but here we're talking about 0.5 year of planning !

Planning is important, and cautiously thinking about your features before diving in can save you weeks later on. But spending 6 month in a tunnel, writing specs you'll spend at least a year to implement, is a huge risk : what if your users only use 30% of the features you designed, and lack a missing feature you didn't plan ? You could have figured it out way sooner have you built something earlier and released it.

Also, your time to market is way slower and you don't risk losing years of work by missing a deadline …

> Damn, now I need to move faster. My app must be ready by the time they close Wunderlist. I expected an eventual closure, but not that soon.

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