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Eh, requires Quicktime. Hooray for the Open Web. I'll just take your word that it's really shiny.

They seem to be using the video-tag: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4073000/html5.png Don’t know what’s going on with QuickTime – maybe a fallback if your browser won’t play h.264? Does it work on Chrome without QuickTime? (– edit: Three people [who downvoted me] seem to think that formulating a reasonable hypothesis and asking reasonable questions because of conflicting information is already too much Apple love. Or maybe…

On my Ubuntu 10.04 system, the video played fine.

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I guess you meant UMTS, not WAP. Anyway, time will tell. So, for those video calls people have to use iPhones at both ends although it would be easy to do that interoperable? I am wondering what the word "open" meant on one of Steves slides sigh

On the following slide, he listed a bunch of open standards (SIP, SRTP, ..), which they presumably use. If they hold true to their word (remains to be seen), other handset operators will be able to build similar support into their handsets.

Actually, i disagree to call H.264 "open" which is also on that slide. I mean, you are right, there is a list of open protocols, he could've also added tcp, ip, dns, ntp, etc. to it. It just seems so contradictory when Steve dedicated a whole slide for the word "open" and in the end presents an iphone-to-iphone technology.

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The important feature is that on the iPhone it will actually work. Also, there will be enough distribution to actually establish video calls on a regular basis (because both ends have an iPhone).

Except you have to call first to verify that whoever you are calling is on wifi. In Europe where wifi is something you have to search for and 3G is something which is everywhere, this renders the feature absolutely useless.

  Except you have to call first to verify that
  whoever you are calling is on wifi.
My guess is that you won't need to do that: if both sides are using Face Time capable devices and are on WiFi they will get videochat option, if not — it will be deactivated.

  In Europe where wifi is something you have to search for and 3G
  is something which is everywhere, this renders the feature
  absolutely useless.
Nobody has Wi-Fi in their homes and offices? Must be some different Europe from where I am. Sure people do have computers with Skype installed at those places, but iPhone video chat will give much more flexibility. It would be pretty tough to show "look what my cat is doing!" using iMac or even Macbook compared to just switching to rear facing camera and pointing it at the cat.

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Because that's the only way to parse the durability of glass being mooted by the fixedness of the battery. Maybe you meant "until I can swap the battery, I don't care what changes they make to the case" or something similar? It's genuinely a confusing point as currently phrased.

I parsed it as "The overall lifetime of a phone is generally limited by the death of it's battery rather than the glass. If the battery could be replaced, the durability of components would be more of an issue."

That's how I parsed it. Not sure why you are being downvoted, except perhaps people being annoyed because the inability to replace the iPhone battery is an old complaint that they've all heard before. But I think it's a legitimate point.

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The important feature is that on the iPhone it will actually work. Also, there will be enough distribution to actually establish video calls on a regular basis (because both ends have an iPhone).

Except you have to call first to verify that whoever you are calling is on wifi. In Europe where wifi is something you have to search for and 3G is something which is everywhere, this renders the feature absolutely useless.

You're absolutely right, but I think video calling is actually very tightly targeted. If you watch Apple's launch video, it's all about family members who love each other but are separated. (Eg. it's not 20-somethings video calling each other to find out where tonight's party is..) And on that admittedly narrow front I think it'll be a smash hit. Right now when my wife or I are away from home, we record videos on our iphones of the other one with the kids (JUST like in their video) and have the kids say hi to the other parent.. and then email them to each other. :)

Edit: phrasing.

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Is it just me, or is Jonathan Ive the only Apple exec able to convincingly recreate Job's reality distortion field? Every time one of these videos comes out, a bunch of guys are paraded out, each one trying to imp Job's style, vocabulary, and delivery, but each one coming across as some guy trying to copy someone else, rather than exude their own sense of style and originality. To be even less charitable and more cyn…

I had this strange idea today when I read that Jobs invited Ive to the stage at the end of the keynote when he introduced video chat.

Is Ive a possible future CEO of Apple? Job’s successor? Is that at all plausible or possible? He doesn’t get much time on stage, in fact I can’t even remember when and if he ever was on stage last.

Pretty much everyone else you see in those videos is on stage quite often. They are doing ok, better than many execs of other companies would, but I think you are quite right: they are all pretty bland. Except Ive, that is.

Is that a totally stupid idea? Does it make any sense at all? Ive is obviously ‘only’ a hardware guy – but would that matter?

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I don't have to search for wifi at home or in the office, and that's where I spend most of the time. Even so, I'm pretty sure Apple has thought this through, making it quick and easy to discover if someone is online, and even invite them through push notifications. They did mention that they "had some details to work out" with the operators, which means that we will probably see video calls on 3G at some point in the…

At home and in the office are also exactly the places where I'm also at a computer which runs skype and can already video chat. No compelling advantage there.

It's a bit easier to move around your home with a phone, so I'm guessing this is going to be used more frequently just because it's more convenient. Same with Skype now that the iPhone supports multitasking.

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Going by the comment on "working with carriers", I believe folks in Europe will be able to video chat over 3G in the not-too-distant future.

No, you don't get it. Folks in Europe have been able to videochat since the first UMTS phones came out.

I'm sure you have. I was just referring to the iPhone 4's video chat. Carriers will determine when it will work over 3G. I expect European carriers will take the lead as they did with the tethering.

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Except you have to call first to verify that whoever you are calling is on wifi. In Europe where wifi is something you have to search for and 3G is something which is everywhere, this renders the feature absolutely useless.

Except you have to call first to verify that whoever you are calling is on wifi. My guess is that you won't need to do that: if both sides are using Face Time capable devices and are on WiFi they will get videochat option, if not — it will be deactivated. In Europe where wifi is something you have to search for and 3G is something which is everywhere, this renders the feature absolutely useless. Nobody has Wi-Fi in t…

On the other hand you'll have to hold the camera in front of you for an hour instead of just looking into the camera of your laptop ;)
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